Saying goodbye to D80 ... (a few images, C&C welcome))

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Saying goodbye to D80 ... (a few images, C&C welcome))
May 23, 2011

Well, the D80, after almost 4 years of good work, left today (not going too far, actually I gave it to older daughter). Last month, just before getting the D7k, we had a short vacation in France, here are my last shots with it and its wonderful kit lens, the 18-70mm (I don't think there's another one like that around). Here are a few shots, more at my Flickr site. I doubt I'll do any better with the new camera, to be honest.

All with 18-70mm, RAW converted with CNX2, minimal adjustments (except for one, noted below). C&C welcome, thanks for viewing.

1- Strasbourg

2- Colmar

3- Colmar

4- Colmar

5- Riquewihr (it was around Easter)

6- Riquewihr

7- Riquewihr (this one required a lot of shadow recovery)

8- Last, a b&w, at the TGV, on our way to Paris from Strasbourg

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Re: Saying goodbye to D80 ... (a few images, C&C welcome))
In reply to rhlpetrus, May 23, 2011

minimal? really? if i had the same luck with my d80 i probably would have gotten more mileage out of it. well, i'm quite contented with my d7k now.
beautiful pictures. i like the second one especially. thanks for sharing.
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the last one
In reply to rhlpetrus, May 23, 2011

Nice portfolio, but that last picture is the money shot.

I marvel at fine pix taken with a D80. I had one and really struggled with it. Kept the 18-70 and moved to a D300. That was a good move for me.

Wonderful pictures. Thanks for sharing. I'm sure the new camera will serve you well.

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Re: the last one
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Great pictures ( especially the last one), great camera.
Hope your D7000 serves you well.
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Lovely pics and i too love the last one best. Is the 2nd last one from up in the clock tower?

Riquewhir and Colmar is where i rode the motorbike too every year with a few others. I love the mountain roads out there and some are very challenging. Have been once by car with the wife and had the dslr then but never take it on the motorbike just in case it gets damaged.
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Re: Saying goodbye to D80 ... (a few images, C&C welcome))
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On the strength of these images I'm keeping my D80 and saying goodbye to thoughts of a D7000.

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In reply to rhlpetrus, May 23, 2011

caught your attention??

those photos are great. D80 has been served you good for those years.
will we keep seeing fabulous photos from your D7k in future?

one more thing, is your elder daughter learning from you well?
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@omaha: settings for D80 and why CNX2
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minimal? really? if i had the same luck with my d80 i probably would have gotten more mileage out of it. well, i'm quite contented with my d7k now.
beautiful pictures. i like the second one especially. thanks for sharing.
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As I posted, except for the one inside the Riquewihr tower, very dark and with backlight (I wanted to preserve the details outside), the other were not PP too much. Maybe the first one also had some PPing (local contrast adjustment in flowers on left with U-point tool), but others were basically ooc.

For the D80, I used all neutral/standard except for TONE (contrast), which I set to medium low in-camera, and color space to Ic, which gives slightly better results than IIIc on the D80, less saturated (still need to check that for D7k).

I then import all those settings to CNX2, which has the advantage of keeping those settings, unlike other PP softs like LR, PS, etc.

For example, the fountain shot and the one below I didn't even do any exposure comp, it's exactly as shot. Actually, the yellow tent is blown a bit (RED), but I left it like that.

On the others I did a small or no exp comp, with small or no HLs/LLs recovery applied, just to adjust histogram to what I find is optimal in each case, usually very fast, at most 1 minute per image, then reduction and my standard sharpening for internet posting (USM=(30,1,0)), to recover detail lost due to pixel merging, no local or other adjustments, that usually messes up with color balance.

I still haven't developed my D7k routine, it'll be similar with some adptation.

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uncleskull wrote:

Nice portfolio, but that last picture is the money shot.

I marvel at fine pix taken with a D80. I had one and really struggled with it. Kept the 18-70 and moved to a D300. That was a good move for me.

Wonderful pictures. Thanks for sharing. I'm sure the new camera will serve you well.

The D80 was, probably, the most problematic camera ever from Nikon regarding exposure, and my tests in the other thread confirm that. The D7k seems much more conservative re MM and HLs, but I still go with spotmetering, manual and a very simple zone system + histograms (especially if RED has a strong component).

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Thanks, yes, the last one is the photographic keeper here, but the rest make for a wonderful trip album, actually the purpose of carrying the camera.

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Great pictures ( especially the last one), great camera.
Hope your D7000 serves you well.
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Lovely pics and i too love the last one best. Is the 2nd last one from up in the clock tower?

Riquewhir and Colmar is where i rode the motorbike too every year with a few others. I love the mountain roads out there and some are very challenging. Have been once by car with the wife and had the dslr then but never take it on the motorbike just in case it gets damaged.
Thanks for sharing
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Thanks Tony for kind words. Yes, it is, the tower is from 1291, and clearly the walls show it was built to survive some hard hitting.

The scenery is outstanding, I had a GPS to go from Colmar to Riquewihr so that I could go into the many small roads, I wish I had more time to stay there, this was basically a 5hr tour of Colmar and Riquewihr including lunch.

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If so, then read my reply to Omaha above re the D80 settings and CNX2.

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On the strength of these images I'm keeping my D80 and saying goodbye to thoughts of a D7000.

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drifit wrote:

caught your attention??

those photos are great. D80 has been served you good for those years.
will we keep seeing fabulous photos from your D7k in future?

one more thing, is your elder daughter learning from you well?
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Well, thanks for the kind words, that only time will tell, but I can't see the camera getting in my way, for good or bad, it's up to me to do it. I'm really oblivious of using the D7k or D80 at shooting, they are about the same, except for spotmetering calibration (surprisingly).

But read my reply to Omaha re settings. I still need to work my ways re in-camera settings and how CNX2 responds to them to be sure the D7k does what I want it to do. I'm still working from Standard, Neutral (mostly now) or Portrait modes, depending on shot, but no tweaking yet. Neutral is too soft for most images, Standard is too harsh for my tastes, so I'll probably teak one of them and use it as the default, with fine adjustments when converting.

The basic routine is similar, but I have already found the files a bit different, mostly better with D7k, if anything. But color is trickier, I'll have to work a little more to get the feeling how the D7k works in that regard, compared to the D80.

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Forgot to reply to that, well, I try, gave her and her husband my basic exposure and composition books, a quick tutorial on shooting and basic PPing with examples (actually, some of the images in this post were used as examples, since I converted them this weekend).

But no talk of MM issues yet ;).
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rhlpetrus wrote:

The basic routine is similar, but I have already found the files a bit different, mostly better with D7k, if anything. But color is trickier, I'll have to work a little more to get the feeling how the D7k works in that regard, compared to the D80.

I Like your French photos very much and hope your D7000 lives up to your expectations.

I never found MM a problem on the D200 The slight over exposure of the front white cabin area of this old light ship can be pulled back in raw. I also find that colours are very easy to control on this camera. they are usually correct which is helpful.

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That sucks man... you certainly need more time there as there is the Haut Koenigsbourg Castle, Montagne des Singes (Monkey Mountain), Jardins de Papillons (Butterfly Garden), Grand Ballon (nice views) all close to Colmar.

If you ever get a chance to go back rent a place for a week and i can recommend a 4 bed house i have used so give me a shout if need be.

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tc333 wrote:

Lovely pics and i too love the last one best. Is the 2nd last one from up in the clock tower?

Riquewhir and Colmar is where i rode the motorbike too every year with a few others. I love the mountain roads out there and some are very challenging. Have been once by car with the wife and had the dslr then but never take it on the motorbike just in case it gets damaged.
Thanks for sharing
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Thanks Tony for kind words. Yes, it is, the tower is from 1291, and clearly the walls show it was built to survive some hard hitting.

The scenery is outstanding, I had a GPS to go from Colmar to Riquewihr so that I could go into the many small roads, I wish I had more time to stay there, this was basically a 5hr tour of Colmar and Riquewihr including lunch.

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We went to the castle but got there too late (closed). Yes, I'll definitely go back, and have someone drive so I can drink the wines! The place is awesome, yes, I'll remember to ask you when that happens, thanks for offer.

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That sucks man... you certainly need more time there as there is the Haut Koenigsbourg Castle, Montagne des Singes (Monkey Mountain), Jardins de Papillons (Butterfly Garden), Grand Ballon (nice views) all close to Colmar.

If you ever get a chance to go back rent a place for a week and i can recommend a 4 bed house i have used so give me a shout if need be.

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tc333 wrote:

Lovely pics and i too love the last one best. Is the 2nd last one from up in the clock tower?

Riquewhir and Colmar is where i rode the motorbike too every year with a few others. I love the mountain roads out there and some are very challenging. Have been once by car with the wife and had the dslr then but never take it on the motorbike just in case it gets damaged.
Thanks for sharing
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Thanks Tony for kind words. Yes, it is, the tower is from 1291, and clearly the walls show it was built to survive some hard hitting.

The scenery is outstanding, I had a GPS to go from Colmar to Riquewihr so that I could go into the many small roads, I wish I had more time to stay there, this was basically a 5hr tour of Colmar and Riquewihr including lunch.

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Re this picture, if you have the RAW file, using HLs/LLs recovery tools in CNX2 (works for jpegs but not so effectively) plus some exposure compensation or slight curves will make the red structure pop. It's good as is already, but can be improved slightly.

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rhlpetrus wrote:

The basic routine is similar, but I have already found the files a bit different, mostly better with D7k, if anything. But color is trickier, I'll have to work a little more to get the feeling how the D7k works in that regard, compared to the D80.

I Like your French photos very much and hope your D7000 lives up to your expectations.

I never found MM a problem on the D200 The slight over exposure of the front white cabin area of this old light ship can be pulled back in raw. I also find that colours are very easy to control on this camera. they are usually correct which is helpful.

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