A New TV?

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Ray Maines
Ray Maines Veteran Member • Posts: 3,759
A New TV?

OK, I totally understand this is a photography web site, but I really don't have anywhere else to turn. You guys are my "family", so to speak, and I'm in a little over my head about the purchase of a new TV. Maybe I'll look at my photo's on the new TV, who knows.

Is there any particular reason to either buy or avoid a LG 46" TV, model number LG 46LD550? Costco has it for a pretty good price and the spec's look good.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11602026&whse=BC&Ne=5000001+4000000&eCat=BC |90607|2341&N=4047300%204294905063&Mo=1&No=0&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&topnav=

Forty six inches seems to be about the right size for my living room, and I don't foresee myself getting all crazy with internet access, 3D, or any other esoteric features. Picture In Picture seems like it would be a good thing, but I don't know if this TV supports that or not. My living room is well lit, and all the seating would be pretty much in front of the TV.

Separate question: This TV has a USB input. Does this mean I could stick a "Thumb Drive" (or whatever they may be called) into that port and see my pictures on screen? Is it likely there would would be some sort of Slide Show feature built into the TV, or would I have to manually change the pictures?

I'm looking for an education here. Any comments you care to make would be appreciated.

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Olga Johnson Forum Pro • Posts: 22,310
Re: A New TV?

Look the TV up on Amazon and read the reviews there. You'll get a lot of feedback that way.
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Skipper494 Forum Pro • Posts: 10,824
Re: A New TV?

1080P and 120Hz, looks OK to me and LG is excellent.

BRJR Forum Pro • Posts: 13,641
Re: "Look the TV up on Amazon ...". (For Comparisons, I Fully Agree)

1. IMO exactly, as I just checked amazon.com. They appear to have the same TV in stock, and a lot more around the same costs. At the link the OP provided, it shows that Costco is charging $99.99 for shipment. At amazon.com, one can sign up online for a "Prime Membership" for cost of $70.00 per year; and, amazon.com will deliver this TV and any other purchases, that are sold directly by amazon.com, with free 2 day delivery; so, right away, the OP would be saving $29.99, on shipping alone.

2. When I do my searches on amazon.com, after the listing of products are presented, I next click on "Prime Eligible" to screen out only the ones eligible for free 2 day delivery by Amazon (and, will have a choice to have one day delivery for a payment of about $3.95). While, typing this Re (message) on my iPad, I am watching CNN News on a 63 inch Samsung Plasma Screen HDTV, that I purchased from amazon, as stated and it was actually delived to inside this room at my home, 2 days after I had ordered it online from Amazon.
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Olga Johnson wrote:

Look the TV up on Amazon and read the reviews there. You'll get a lot of feedback that way.
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Ray Maines
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USB Input ????

Thank you guys.

What would the USB port be used for?

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Tom C Veteran Member • Posts: 5,488
Re: USB Input ????

You should be able to run a slide show off your Laptop or PC. My brother does it with his Sony 32in.
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BRJR Forum Pro • Posts: 13,641
Re: "What would the USB port be used for?"

Besides serving as an input for all sorts of usb electronic devices, most manufacturers periodically make firmware and other software updates to their HDTVs, and one way to update this on ones TV, is to download such from the manufacturers web site, using our computers (much as we currently do for our cameras); and, by copying or loading it to a USB flash drive (8 GB ones are as cheep as $13.00 or less on amazon.com), one can insert this USB drive into the USB slot on the TV, follow instructions as should be in your TVs Owners Manual or directly from the TVs Menus, and the TV is updated within seconds/minutes.

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Ray Maines wrote:

Thank you guys.

What would the USB port be used for?

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BAK Forum Pro • Posts: 20,584
Re: A New TV?

We bought a 52 inch LCD Samsung a couple of years ago, and it transformed how we watch television.

We go to fewer movies by far.

You are aware, I presume, that you need a special receiver to get high definition pictures out of the sky or off the end of a wire belonging to your cable company.

I'm not as big a fanof LG as I used to be, based on stories I've read, not personal experience.

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Olga Johnson Forum Pro • Posts: 22,310
Re: A New TV?

BAK wrote:

You are aware, I presume, that you need a special receiver to get high definition pictures out of the sky or off the end of a wire belonging to your cable company.

My understanding of the distinction is that HDTV does not require special receiver. HD-ready requires the special receiver. This model is HDTV, not HD-ready.

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Berghof Senior Member • Posts: 1,186
forget about TV and try this

and try this outlet to stimulate your mind

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/nonsubscriber.php

and you may discover a whole new world of ideas, good luck
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Alekko Veteran Member • Posts: 7,687
Samsung LED?

I would recommend any Samsung’s LED TV (they’re the best).

I would recommend LED over LCD. LCD is obsolete technology (the source of the light behind the screen) and it’s going to be completely replaced by LED very soon.

If you see LED and LCD TVs side-by-side, you’ll know what to buy :).

Get one which is 120Hz or higher, higher dynamic range (million or better).

Good luck,
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Alekko Veteran Member • Posts: 7,687
Re: A New TV?

In order to receive (and watch) HD program from the cable company (or satellite company), you do need to have their HD receiver. At least here in Canada and I have no reason to believe otherwise in US.

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tompower53 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,261
Well let's not forget about plasma - they might be the best

I just got a new 46" Panasonic plasma and if they make an LCD or LED with better color and blacker blacks or a faster refresh rate I sure never heard about or viewed one.
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John Q Public Forum Member • Posts: 82
Re: A New TV?

Required to have a special tuner:

No, believe that's illegal, and I know it's not true. Things like On-demand, premium channels, etc may require this. but major channels, OTA sources, and etc are often (at least in the US) provided "clear". With a digital TV (as this would be) and being HD capable (as it would be again) the OP could screw into local cable and with the correct programming choice receive at least some HD programming wo/a special box. Been there, done that.

LED is going to replace LCD:

Geez, I sound like I'm argueing. I'm sorry, don't but to be that kind of guy. Still that' not entirely truen. LED is simply an alternate backlight method. In both "std" LCD and "LED" TV the display driver remains LCD. LED is favored only because it's a more even light medium and allows an evem more shallow TV design (when used as a edge source). Its nice, but it's not a critical factor, and in any event LCD is the dispaly engine in use one way in both.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED-backlit_LCD_television

The TV in question:

Nice enough choice, maybe even more TV then you really need. Depends of your room and budget of course, but I just put a 50" plasma in a bedroom. At least in my mind size is the first big gun. Buy absolutely as much as you can fit. TV fanatics will consider this heresay,but I'd drop specs for a larger TV.

On the whole 1080P thing, well... Ho hum. Sure, 1080 does like better then 720, and sooner or later we'll actually even HAVE some 1080 material to watch. But today its quite rare and what there is typically 1080i. In any event, on a 46" display it's hardly critical one way or the other. That 50" I bought? 720P. Why? It was a bedroom and I had a budget to meet. Within that budget the 50" 720P delivers more viewing enjoyment then a 42" 1080p. So...

LG? Sure. They weren't the best product for a time but they've been improving year after year. All other features matching I'd take a panasonic or a samsung first, but I'd not hesitate on a LG. In fact, those three were my final 3 on my 50". I went Sammy, but LG would have been fine.

I do think the 4 HDMI is a good choice. Did you notice the HDMI wireless? Have you thought that through yet? Where the electronics go and how you cable it up can have significant impacts to where you mount. Wall mounting, as an example, Kinds is a hassle if you want a DVD, DVR, or game machine nearby. But... with HDMI wireless you can located all that someplace else.

Really, that's probable the most underated of the technology enablers our there right now, and LG seems to be doing a decent job with it. So...

Summary? Nice TV, nothing wrong with it. Do consider the biggest you can fit and afford. The darn things are like boats: You always the next size up. Personally, if cost was a factor I'd drop LED for more size. Can you spend a grand?
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Alekko Veteran Member • Posts: 7,687
Re: Well let's not forget about plasma - they might be the best

Plasma's might be better – but are they?

Well, now you’re talking about two completely different technologies.

Indeed, before LED, plasma had an advantage. Before LED, I didn’t care for either one.

That was before LED. Not anymore. This is 2010/11.

LED closed the gap and in some areas is not just even but even better. Especially in brightness (thanks to LED).

Plasma’s are still slightly better in blacks and contras (but only just) with slightly better viewing angles.

LEDs are better for watching the program during the daylight. No glare like plasma’s.

Plasma’s are more susceptible to burn-in of static images.

I can hang Samsung’s LED on the wall like a picture. Just 20mm thick :).

LED has higher res then plasma.

As for the refresh rates, anything above 120/240MHz on LEDs is just a theory.

Power consumption – LED is way. way more efficient. I read an article where Samsung’s 50” LED was tested. They calculated that using the TV for 8 hours/day/365 would cost US $18/year. Talking green.

It is now a matter of a personal choice. Chose one you like. To me – the choice is clear.

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Alekko Veteran Member • Posts: 7,687
Re: A New TV?

I’m sorry, but what’s illegal? Getting an official HD box from the cable/satellite provider to watch the HD program they provide us with?

I have 5 boxes, for every TV in the house. I bought them so that I can legally watch the program. As I mention, this is needed in Canada to watch Bell (satellite) of Rogers (cable) and few others. It might be different in States.

Yes, the stations are sending out HD signal, but for those I really want to watch I need a satellite. I have no interest in the local stations.

LED is going to replace LCD:

... that' not entirely truen. LED is simply an alternate backlight method.

I’m very familiar with LED and LCD. It is part of my job to know all about that :).

In my post you’re quoting I said “LCD is obsolete technology (the source of the light behind the screen) , meaning that the light source of the current LCDs is going to be obsolete soon. I didn't want to get into the details behind the LEDs , because this is not the TV forum. Yes, they are both based on LCD technology, but with the different light sources behind.

Just to say now, LED is better light source than CCFL (Cold-Cathode Fluorescent Lamp) used in what is called LCDs.

Those interested in the subject can google LED. Some of those who make living selling TVs don't know the difference, lol.

Besides, all modern laptops are now made with LED screens (LCDs with LED backlight :)).

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John Q Public Forum Member • Posts: 82
Re: Well let's not forget about plasma - they might be the best

Horses for courses. Tompower liked the compromise. So did I when I selected Plasma for the bedroom. They are, dollar for dollar, more TV. I spent $638 on Sammy and that was local. Tax brought it up more, but the local dealer added some value.. A 50" LCD Samsung would be what? A grand or so, right?

And at night, when I tend to use the thing, the plasma is great to look at.

However, we agree glare, at least in the low-end plasmas, is indeed a problem. In a critical location or one used in a sunlit room one must be mighty careful. I've got 3 HDTV's now. When either of the older two fails the main den's TV will be replaced by a 55-60" something. If it was today it would in fact be an LED LCD w/1080p. But that the main TV. And honestly I would only spend $1k to maybe 1.3, so who knows how much TV I'd get. But then it's a TV, not a car.. Actually, right this minute I'd probably buy the walmart 55" LCD I linked ealier.

Only the OP knows what combination of $$ and performance he needs. But I suppose we've at least given him some things to think about.

Props to all.

John Q Public Forum Member • Posts: 82
Re: Well let's not forget about plasma - they might be the best

Alekho:

You are probably correct, I probably read your post wrong. Or not. And the average reader can decide for his/her self.

Either way, lets not screw up a thread intended to help by screwing around w/semantics and trivialities.

Brad99 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,145
Re: A New TV?

LED backlights have their own problems. Clouding in corners for one, blue tinted blacks for another, and they only really show their full potential if local dimming is used, which it usually isn't. Trust your eyes, and make sure you see a dark picture in a dark room before deciding. They can be better than normal CCFL backlights but not necessarily so, as they are still being advanced a little.

Lyle Aldridge Contributing Member • Posts: 730
Re: A New TV?

Ray Maines wrote:

Forty six inches seems to be about the right size for my living room, and I don't foresee myself getting all crazy with internet access, 3D, or any other esoteric features.
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Ray, I predict you WILL want net access before long. The amount of content that can be streamed to your big screen is already mind-boggling, and expanding rapidly. Of course, you can add this function later with a set-top box or blue-ray player, but if I were buying a new set today, it's no longer something I'd regard as superfluous.

I was essentially ignorant of this technology until one of our kids gave my wife a Roku box just recently. Now, about a third of what we watch is coming off the internet, and it's increasing to the point where we're considering canceling our satellite TV (there is no cable in our locale). This despite the fact that our net access is barely broadband. It's not just a few movies any more. This fall, for instance, the small college where I went to school had every home game available on the net.

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