D90 18-200 vs 18-105 + 70-300

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howellls
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D90 18-200 vs 18-105 + 70-300
Mar 6, 2010

I looking to upgrade my D70 and have been going back and forth between the D90 and D300s. While I like the weight and feel of the D300s better, I am leaning towards the D90 because it's almost 1/2 the cost. At first I was considering getting the body only and picking up a Sigma or Tamron 18-250 since I have 2 big upcoming trips. Today I was able to hold a Nikon 18-200 and it was love at first sight. I really like the feel of that lens. The salesperson at Best buys offered a second option for almost the same price. Rather than the 18-200 she would include the 18-105 kit lens and a 70-300 lens with IS. SHe did ay that the 18-200 was a better quality lens. Any opinions or suggestions would be welcome. I also have a 50mm 1.8 Nikon lens that I have really enjoyed with the D70. Thanks

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Re: D90 18-200 vs 18-105 + 70-300
In reply to howellls, Mar 6, 2010

the 18-200 is a great walk around lens
the 18-105 is a great walk around lens as well

the 18-105 is a faster focus lens than the 18-200
i believe at certain mm it is sharper as well.

the 18-200 has a better reach obviously.

no comments on the 70-300.

I did alot of reading comparisons on both lens and picked the 105..

i bought it for 250 refurbed and its been very great. IQ is equal to that of the kit lens.

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In reply to rfuser, Mar 6, 2010

I bought the 18-105mm VR lens for $250 off some guy on craigslist. He barely used it. It came with his D90 and he wanted a faster lens. I sold my 18-55mm VR lens for $100 the same day.

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In reply to GuardianFlash, Mar 6, 2010

The 18-200 is not a better lens than the 18-105 or 70-300 vr II. All are good consumer lenses, each with their benefits. The 70-300 is reported to be sharp until 200 but still good after that. Make sure she is talking about the 70-300 VRII model and not the older version, which is not a great lens. I'd take the 18-105 + 70-300 but it's really a matter of preference.

Also, check prices at B&H and Adorama if you're in the U.S. They have excellent prices. Best Buy will probably price match. Another option is Costco. They won't price match but they have a 90 day no hassle return policy. Point is, you can probably do better than the Best Buy price.

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In reply to Quash, Mar 6, 2010

i just recently sold my 18-55mm for $150 on CL locally and got a 18-105mm from my uncle for $265. Obviously there are pros n cons to every lens. nothing is perfect. point about being human is being able to work around those and produce something great =] either setup is great.

if its the same price for either option, id probably go for the 18-200. reason? only carry one lens and not have to switch off. and according to another person who posted here, it was said that it wasnt as sharp after 200mm =X so unless you REALLY need that focal length, id stick with a single lens that can cover most of what 2 lenses can do. [unless u go into pro lenses of cos]

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In reply to howellls, Mar 6, 2010

Have both the 18-105 and the 18-200VRII. Both are quite good. The build quality of the 18-200 is a bit better (metal lens mount, etc.). The 18-200 seems to get mixed reviews on the forum but I've had not problems - very minor distortion at WA, no CA and only moderate softness at the long end. It's a great walk around lens.

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In reply to howellls, Mar 6, 2010

The 18-105 + 70-300 at about the same price as the 18 - 200 seems like a better deal if the 70 - 300 is vr II. But what should drive your decision is what will be more useful for you, how many lenses you want to carry and how often you want to change them. All three of them are very good. If any of them is NOT better than the other two it is the 18 - 200 based on all I have read (I have the 18 - 105 and love it like 99% of people I have seen express themselves about it).

If you don't need more than 200mm (for bird photography or the like, or a nicer bokeeh at the long end of the 70-300), I'd recommend to go with the 18 - 200 nevertheless, because it will allow you to shoot more with less stuff to carry and without worries about getting dust or damage during lens changes.

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In reply to Soren47, Mar 6, 2010

Soren47 wrote:

Have both the 18-105 and the 18-200VRII. Both are quite good. The build quality of the 18-200 is a bit better (metal lens mount, etc.). The 18-200 seems to get mixed reviews on the forum but I've had not problems - very minor distortion at WA, no CA and only moderate softness at the long end. It's a great walk around lens.

Just out of curiosity and to make sure I understand, if I may ask: why hold on to the 18-105 if the 18-200 gives satisfaction since the 18-105 is not significantly shorter or lighter? What would be the situations in which you prefer it to the 18-200?

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In reply to Polyglot92, Mar 7, 2010

Polyglot92 wrote:

Soren47 wrote:

Have both the 18-105 and the 18-200VRII. Both are quite good. The build quality of the 18-200 is a bit better (metal lens mount, etc.). The 18-200 seems to get mixed reviews on the forum but I've had not problems - very minor distortion at WA, no CA and only moderate softness at the long end. It's a great walk around lens.

Just out of curiosity and to make sure I understand, if I may ask: why hold on to the 18-105 if the 18-200 gives satisfaction since the 18-105 is not significantly shorter or lighter? What would be the situations in which you prefer it to the 18-200?

Probably should have clarified that. The 18-105 came with the D90 kit and the 18-200 I bought with the D300s. So, different lenses on different cameras. My wife much prefers the D90 w/18-105 - says it suits her perspective. For me, the 18-200 is preferrable - the extra mms make a difference - at least to me.

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In reply to howellls, Mar 7, 2010

I have all 3 of these lenses. The 18-105vr and 70-300vr are slightly sharper than the 18-200vr IMHO. The 18-200vr is a very nice walk around lens with a hugely useful focal range, and is plenty sharp enough for most uses.

So, if your goal is to have an all in one lens that you don't need to change very often, and that has pretty decent image quality than get the 18-200vr. If you want slightly better image quality, a longer overall focal length, and don't mind having to change lenses than get the 18-105vr/70-300vr combination.

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In reply to Polyglot92, Mar 7, 2010

When I bought my D80 it came with the 18-135 nonVR kit lens. I bought the 18-200 VR (1st incarnation) and the 70-300 VR. I still have all of them. I wanted a walk around lens with further reach, thus got the 18-200 which had VibReduction. Everyone at the time was in love with it because of the VR feature, but it does have the zoom problem since it has no lock feature. I never complained about the 18-135, but have often thought about selling it. I haven't because I think I will eventually pick up a smaller body. But, if I could do an even swap for an 18-105 VR, I would. I purchased the 70-300VR because it offers better range for wildlife, but doesn't cost a fortune or weigh a ton. Not a perfect lens, but well worth $500. While the 18-105 is a nice kit lens, the second generation 18-200VR should be superior in build quality and ability to zoom closer to your subject by quite a bit. I'd go for the Nikon 300s and the 18-200VRII and add the 70-300VR later.
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In reply to Soren47, Mar 7, 2010

I suspect your wife prefers the smaller, lighter D90 body and the lighter 18-105. When you load the 18-200 onto the D300s, you're carrying a handful for everyday use, but lots of folks say they get used to it. I like the D80 with the 18-200VR, but I notice a difference when I pop the 18-135 onto the D80, too. Much lighter for carrying around.
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In reply to howellls, Mar 7, 2010

Right now you can get the D90 with the kit lens and 70-300mm at Amazon for $1368.14. When you look at the D90 page, a little lower down there's a note about a deal for $200 off the combo. You need to copy the promo code and use it during checkout.

I just ordered one myself today. Anyways...

Having one lens is nice, and I even think you can find the lens distortion correction amounts to enter into Photoshop for the 18-200 on the Internet, listed by focal length used. But, as has been said, it's not as sharp as the other lenses. Also, if your lens goes bad then you're stuck. If your 18-105mm goes bad in the middle of your vacation, at least you still have the 70-300 to work with.

If you're going to carry two lenses on vacation then you might want to practice switching lenses while your walking. Also, make sure you get a camera bag that's suited for that task. Sometimes you're walking with a group and simply can't stop to switch a lens, and other times there's just no place to stop and sit to switch your lens. Otherwise, the 18-200mm may likely be a better choice for your vacation.

But what about after your vacation? Think about that too.

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i started in digital SLR photography with a D50 and Sigma 18-200mm lens, which I used for almost two years before selling the Sigma. My walkaround kit now includes the 18-105 and the 70-300. When I look at my online portfolia I realize I took some of my best photos using that early one lens combination....I could concentrate on composition and settings and not on which lens to use and the hassle of changing them when moving about in crowds or with no place to rest things.

I'm seriously considering going back to my roots via the Nikon or Tamron all-in-one myself. That said the two Nikons you are considering are excellent light lenses and do a really fine job under most circumstances. My current lite includes a small holster with the D50, the 18-105, a 50/1.4D for lowlight, and a Vivitar close-up lens set to convert the 50mm into a macro lens. All basis covered.
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In reply to howellls, Mar 7, 2010

If so...to what extent? If you feel it's annoying to you, go for the 18-200vr. It's an excellent lens for general use. Ultimately it all depends on your needs and expectatives.

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I did a lot of research and spoke to some friends and went with the D90 with the 18-200 and the 35mm 1.8. The extra money for the D300s was not worth it to me. Look at some of the pics on this site taken with a D90. Truly amazing.
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HowellLS wrote:

I looking to upgrade my D70 and have been going back and forth between the D90 and D300s. While I like the weight and feel of the D300s better, I am leaning towards the D90 because it's almost 1/2 the cost. At first I was considering getting the body only and picking up a Sigma or Tamron 18-250 since I have 2 big upcoming trips. Today I was able to hold a Nikon 18-200 and it was love at first sight. I really like the feel of that lens. The salesperson at Best buys offered a second option for almost the same price. Rather than the 18-200 she would include the 18-105 kit lens and a 70-300 lens with IS. SHe did ay that the 18-200 was a better quality lens. Any opinions or suggestions would be welcome. I also have a 50mm 1.8 Nikon lens that I have really enjoyed with the D70. Thanks

I can't comment on the any lens except for the 18-105VR as I got the D90 camera kit which came with that lens and what I WILL say about it is it balances nicely with the D90 and while neither is light as a feather, I have no qualms about hanging it from my neck with the camera bag slung over my left side and go traipsing around the urban jungle that is Seattle with all its hills for a good couple of hours snapping away. Also, it's a really nice lens that produces good, sharp images despite some barrel distortion/pin-cushioning and some vignetting in the corners at some focal lengths, non of them are bad in most situations and it's just a great, all, rounder lens for most situations and for a kit lens, that's saying something as I've heard in the past that one was often advised to avoid kit lenses but not so much anymore.

Now as others have said, what you ultimately get will largely be determined by what you shoot and whether the extra reach of the other 2 will be of use to you.

Good luck in your decision.

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In reply to ciddyguy, Mar 7, 2010

Thanks for your reply and for all of the other replies.With my 2 trips coming up, I am leaning towards the 18-200.

Now as others have said, what you ultimately get will largely be determined by what you shoot and whether the extra reach of the other 2 will be of use to you.

Good luck in your decision.

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I had 18-105 which comes with D90 and it is so great and already I buy 70+300 Vr also so nice for zoom very good focus

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In reply to howellls, Mar 7, 2010

If you are looking for a trip lens, I prefer the 18-200VR because it can cover so much and you don't need to waste time changing lenses to get a little extra reach if you need it. I used that lens almost exclusively when I lived in Scotland and went on hikes. I still use it whenever I go hiking and exploring in the Toronto area. I have the 70-300VR as well, but use that more for wildlife photos than anything else. Cheers,
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