EOS 1DMk4 to replace MIII.

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InVision
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EOS 1DMk4 to replace MIII.
Feb 20, 2009

By posting this thread it is not my intention to speculate or run the rumour mills but this is genuine fact.

A colleague is the editor of a large media outlet who has just recently been 'lunching' with Canon Sales exec's in relation to the purchase of the new to be released 1DMk4.

Considering the MkIII was released in Feb 07 this is probably no surprise based on Canon's 18-24 month update cycle.

The Mk4 will bring in to line recent upgrades seen in the 5DMk2, such as 920k LCD, Movie mode & revised AF and higher ISO capabilities.

No release date was offered. This may be 'so what!' to many users but anyway at least there shouldn't be any dispute about its name.
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Re: EOS 1DMk4 to replace MIII.
In reply to InVision, Feb 20, 2009

My speculation would be that they're probably going to ditch the 1.3x crop with this generation of 1D, and just use a lower res, higher speed full frame sensor with big photosites and terrific high ISO, as in the D3. Looking forward to the specs of this camera.

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Re: EOS 1DMk4 to replace MIII.
In reply to InVision, Feb 20, 2009

Who's spending money nowadays anyways?

InVision wrote:

By posting this thread it is not my intention to speculate or run the
rumour mills but this is genuine fact.

A colleague is the editor of a large media outlet who has just
recently been 'lunching' with Canon Sales exec's in relation to the
purchase of the new to be released 1DMk4.
Considering the MkIII was released in Feb 07 this is probably no
surprise based on Canon's 18-24 month update cycle.
The Mk4 will bring in to line recent upgrades seen in the 5DMk2, such
as 920k LCD, Movie mode & revised AF and higher ISO capabilities.
No release date was offered. This may be 'so what!' to many users but
anyway at least there shouldn't be any dispute about its name.
InVision.
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speculation
In reply to GaryJP, Feb 21, 2009

I speculate that there will always be speculators speculating. Wait, I guess that I wouldn't be speculating now would I? Hey!

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In reply to InVision, Feb 21, 2009

The new machine will be more than we hoped. It will be flawlessly executed and assembled. No reviews will be necessary. All will want it (dabblers and pros alike). Congress will grant a tax break for its purchase, and I will buy two of them.

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Wow, 4 comes after 3? This is news?
In reply to InVision, Feb 21, 2009

Now why didn't I predict that!

You want real news? I've heard that the 1D5 will replace the 1D4.

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In reply to Robert Burkhalter, Feb 21, 2009

"When I take pictures in the dark, the sun isn't shining".

Robert Burkhalter wrote:

The new machine will be more than we hoped. It will be flawlessly
executed and assembled. No reviews will be necessary. All will want
it (dabblers and pros alike). Congress will grant a tax break for
its purchase, and I will buy two of them.

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Re: EOS 1DMk4 to replace MIII.
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Fearless_Photog wrote:

My speculation would be that they're probably going to ditch the 1.3x
crop with this generation of 1D, and just use a lower res, higher
speed full frame sensor with big photosites and terrific high ISO, as
in the D3. Looking forward to the specs of this camera.

The 5DMKII was supposed to have a 16mp full frame sensor, and then the 24mp Sony A900 and its $3000 price tag changed that plan no doubt. So, Canon could probably put the 16mp full frame sensor in the 1DMKIV. If it sells for $5K or less, it could be very successful. Low noise at ISO 1600 and 3200, 16mp full frame and 10 fps would be my prediction.

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Re: EOS 1DMk4 to replace MIII.
In reply to InVision, Feb 21, 2009

InVision wrote:

By posting this thread it is not my intention to speculate or run the
rumour mills but this is genuine fact.

A colleague is the editor of a large media outlet who has just
recently been 'lunching' with Canon Sales exec's in relation to the
purchase of the new to be released 1DMk4.
Considering the MkIII was released in Feb 07 this is probably no
surprise based on Canon's 18-24 month update cycle.
The Mk4 will bring in to line recent upgrades seen in the 5DMk2, such
as 920k LCD, Movie mode & revised AF and higher ISO capabilities.
No release date was offered. This may be 'so what!' to many users but
anyway at least there shouldn't be any dispute about its name.
InVision.

Yeah, it's not like your post will feed the rumors.

I had lunch with Bigfoot yesterday. That's genuine fact. He confirmed that his name is Bigfoot, the fourth. So, there shouldn't be any dispute about his name. Oh, and he said he prefers Pentax, but his wife likes Olympus.

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Re: EOS 1DMk4 to replace MIII.
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Anastigmat wrote:

Fearless_Photog wrote:

My speculation would be that they're probably going to ditch the 1.3x
crop with this generation of 1D, and just use a lower res, higher
speed full frame sensor with big photosites and terrific high ISO, as
in the D3. Looking forward to the specs of this camera.

The 5DMKII was supposed to have a 16mp full frame sensor, and then
the 24mp Sony A900 and its $3000 price tag changed that plan no
doubt. So, Canon could probably put the 16mp full frame sensor in
the 1DMKIV. If it sells for $5K or less, it could be very
successful. Low noise at ISO 1600 and 3200, 16mp full frame and 10
fps would be my prediction.

I think your expectations are a little low. I would hope that Canon would see the 1DIV as hitting a plateau of excellance for awhile. This could be the ultimate image machine.

-There's enough real estate on the back of the 1D series for a 4inch high res LCD screen. That would be exciting.

-16MP? I'm thinking 30ish MP with a selectable option for lower resolution to obtain a higher frame rate for sports. The best of both worlds.

-Video mode with fully manual controls. This would really compete with Red. (People are already intercutting 5DII footage with Red, but the 5DII is eveb better than red in low light)

-Even cleaner images at 6400ISO and up. (would be nice but not expecting anything more than 5DII in that regard)

-Better dynamic range by allowing the sensor to apply different ISO settings to highlights and shadows within the same exposure. (Read about this somewhere)

Finally, the MP wars would be over. We're probably reaching a point where the 1DIV could be like the old F1. It will stick around for awhile with few changes, but the next 1D camera will be substantially different than the 1DsIII. A camera like this might actually pry 7,000 from my hands. I thnik this is where it needs to be bring customers into that price point away from the 5DII and justify that 5,000 more.

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Re: EOS 1DMk4 to replace MIII.
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f64manray wrote:

Anastigmat wrote:

Fearless_Photog wrote:

My speculation would be that they're probably going to ditch the 1.3x
crop with this generation of 1D, and just use a lower res, higher
speed full frame sensor with big photosites and terrific high ISO, as
in the D3. Looking forward to the specs of this camera.

The 5DMKII was supposed to have a 16mp full frame sensor, and then
the 24mp Sony A900 and its $3000 price tag changed that plan no
doubt. So, Canon could probably put the 16mp full frame sensor in
the 1DMKIV. If it sells for $5K or less, it could be very
successful. Low noise at ISO 1600 and 3200, 16mp full frame and 10
fps would be my prediction.

I think your expectations are a little low. I would hope that Canon
would see the 1DIV as hitting a plateau of excellance for awhile.
This could be the ultimate image machine.

-There's enough real estate on the back of the 1D series for a 4inch
high res LCD screen. That would be exciting.

-16MP? I'm thinking 30ish MP with a selectable option for lower
resolution to obtain a higher frame rate for sports. The best of both
worlds.

In a 1D4, 16MP FF would probably suffice, with 30+MP for a 1Ds4. However if Canon merge the 2 1 series into one line like a 1Dx, then 30+MP with crop modes and sraw for sports shooter would work.

Unless a camera like that was priced closer to the $5000 than $8000 price point, they won't get many away from the D3 or 1D3, and newsagencies, etc would possibly baulk at buying a heap of $8000 cameras when they can stay with Nikons D3 or D4 as half the price.

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Imagine that...

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