Really sexy photos

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AnandaSim
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Really sexy photos
Oct 6, 2008

of the 9-18 - I spotted this at:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/olddo/

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Re: Really sexy photos
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I'd be all over that lens if it was 3 stops faster and without a moving aperture! Shame it isn't.
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Look good.
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I'm still waiting for the time that I have enough money buying the 7-14!!! The day that never comes
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On that photos now I can see clearly, that 9-18 accepts filters.

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JonathanJK wrote:

I'd be all over that lens if it was 3 stops faster and without a
moving aperture! Shame it isn't.
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Hi Jonathan,

I don't know how much uwa shooting that you do, I've had mine since May. And as I would say, still learning about it.

I find that the 7mm runs out of comfortable DOF at f/8. It's not that the sharpness is poor - the lens is a really sharp lens. But lower than f/8, I haven't shot scenes that I enjoy.

Next thing is the curvature of the front element and the size of the lens. The 9-18 is a much smaller lens. The 7-14 front element is really obvious and it still is only f/4 to go any bigger, the lens and the cost and the weight will be big. The 9-18 is a lot cheaper I think than my 7-14mm - you can't get low price, large aperture, filter in the front, small dimensions as far as I can see.

Look at the competition:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/digital-wide-zooms/comparison.htm
They are all about f/4

Ken's photo:

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some pictures
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.. with my 9-18

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well then...
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...it would be a completely different lens.

And you'd be whining that it costs too much.
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"I find that the 7mm runs out of comfortable DOF at f/8. It's not that the sharpness is poor - the lens is a really sharp lens. But lower than f/8, I haven't shot scenes that I enjoy."

with a hyperfocal distance of 2.7ft wide open at f4 I find this a somewhat strange observation.

whilst close foreground objects and overall sharpness are often elements in composition with this lens I rarely find myself going over F5.6.

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davidrm wrote:

...it would be a completely different lens.

And you'd be whining that it costs too much.
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That may be a different lens, but I wouldn't hesistate in purchasing it if Olympus released that instead. Don't assume too much about me and my ability to whine.

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JonathanJK wrote:

I'd be all over that lens if it was 3 stops faster and without a
moving aperture! Shame it isn't.
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Hi Jonathan,

I don't know how much uwa shooting that you do, I've had mine since
May. And as I would say, still learning about it.

I find that the 7mm runs out of comfortable DOF at f/8. It's not that
the sharpness is poor - the lens is a really sharp lens. But lower
than f/8, I haven't shot scenes that I enjoy.

Next thing is the curvature of the front element and the size of the
lens. The 9-18 is a much smaller lens. The 7-14 front element is
really obvious and it still is only f/4 to go any bigger, the lens
and the cost and the weight will be big. The 9-18 is a lot cheaper I
think than my 7-14mm - you can't get low price, large aperture,
filter in the front, small dimensions as far as I can see.

Look at the competition:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/digital-wide-zooms/comparison.htm
They are all about f/4

Ken's photo:

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I'm a practising photojournalist so I while I want the wide angles I also want the high f-stops as well. My mistake is comparing this lens to the Canon 16-35mm f2.8.

At the moment I'm using my 24mm focal length on my 12-60 SWD for those reasons.
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surely you use the 14-35 at that focal length?

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photo_owl wrote:

with a hyperfocal distance of 2.7ft wide open at f4 I find this a
somewhat strange observation.

whilst close foreground objects and overall sharpness are often
elements in composition with this lens I rarely find myself going
over F5.6.

Always willing to learn from you. I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

I have deleted most of my less successful ones. Here is one - I think at f/4 7mm - I have to find the original. The nearest leaves on the floor are losing crispness.

I think this one too demonstrates it:

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Thanks for sharing. Always happy to see uwa stuff.
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Great curves!

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No I want the wider angles, there is a nice overlap with the 12-60 and I could use the 2 together. Whereas the 14-35 doesn't offer much to me over the 12-60mm, though it would be nice to have, just not important enough to me to buy at the moment.

Or maybe I confused you, I said 24mm meaning 12mm, I was thinking with my full frame head on?
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This one is 7mm FL at F4.0 aperture
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Maximum FL of 7mm, shot handheld indoors at 1/60 sec, with aperture F4.0.
The auto-ISO decided to go for iso 640.

Tweaked contrast a little, but no sharpening in PP.
I am not unhappy with the sharpness under all those circumstances.

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Thanks Roel - it was one of you shots that got me to get the 7-14

This one is good. I can see a little softness at sides but I would be happy with this too.
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JonathanJK wrote:

Or maybe I confused you, I said 24mm meaning 12mm, I was thinking
with my full frame head on?

24mm EFL = 12mm optical is not uwa for me. It is conservative bow tie wa.
That is fine at f/2.8

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In reply to JonathanJK, Oct 6, 2008

by that.

A fast UWA is pointless, you are almost always struggling for DOF. And I don't understand the point of constant aperure zooms at all - I have three (including the Nikkor 14-24 f2.8, relevantly) and I have a nasty feeling the could be faster if they weren't messing about with this constant aperture rubbish.
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