50D news...not rumor

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shawn_hubbard
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50D news...not rumor
Aug 18, 2008

I don't really post on here often but I thought it was appropriate...

Since, I don't have much history on these boards, mainly because of time issues..some background on my self so you don't think it is total BS.

I'm a Mark III shooter. I am a team photographer for the Baltimore Ravens. Feel free to check out their website. Anyway...

I just got off the phone with my local Canon dealer. We have a close relationship because I have had really bad luck with one of my Mark III bodies. He just got back from a Canon meeting in Hawaii.

He shot the 50D for four days and pretty much signed his life away not to tell..I'm hoping this won't get back to him This is what he told me

50D
15MP
1.6X crop
weather sealed
he said he couldn't remember if it was 5-6fps like 40D or maybe as high as 8fps

I didn't get into more details cause I have little use for one. It will be the next camera Canon releases. All that is fact.

Now, although Canon was super quiet about it...he SUSPECTS (NOT FACT) that Canon will announce 5D replacement at Photokina...FF approx. 16.7MP

Doubt if you may...just thought I'd share

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I wish you had found out about the lcd resolution!....
In reply to shawn_hubbard, Aug 18, 2008

but any way, thanks for the heads up. Every little bit helps.
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Re: 50D news...not rumor
In reply to shawn_hubbard, Aug 18, 2008

15 mpxiels on a 1.6 crop.....

Unless they've totally redesigned the sensor hardware.... I don't see this as a positive step.

How about less noise at higher ISO, a flash commander type function built into the camera body, better AF, better metering.... you know... stuff that actually has an affect on taking the shot and the quality of the output. Weather sealing is a good thing so I'll concede on that one.

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Re: 50D news...not rumor
In reply to shawn_hubbard, Aug 18, 2008

He shot the 50D for four days and can't tell if it's 5fps or 8fps?

He shot the 50D for four days and pretty much signed his life away
not to tell..I'm hoping this won't get back to him This is what
he told me

50D
15MP
1.6X crop
weather sealed
he said he couldn't remember if it was 5-6fps like 40D or maybe as
high as 8fps

I didn't get into more details cause I have little use for one. It
will be the next camera Canon releases. All that is fact.

Now, although Canon was super quiet about it...he SUSPECTS (NOT FACT)
that Canon will announce 5D replacement at Photokina...FF approx.
16.7MP

Doubt if you may...just thought I'd share

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R Valentino
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No way it's going to be 15mp on a 1.6 sensor
In reply to shawn_hubbard, Aug 18, 2008

I wouldn't want to see 15mp on the 1.3x sensor either.

Nikon has it correct at this time, 12mp on FF for the best all around performance.

Hopefully this is a rumor, I'd hate to have to sell my 40D and lenses and go to Nikon to get high ISO performance.

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In reply to shawn_hubbard, Aug 18, 2008

OK, so I will believe that for a moment...

1.6 crop? As expected. No point in putting a 1.3 crop in the xxD line. Many people have already EF-S lenses or third party equivalents.

15MP? Interesting. Personally I believe that the limit for pixel count on a 1.6 crop sensor is 12MP. I really doubt to see any real life difference between 12 and 15 MP. I mean in resolution. Yet I might be wrong. Some pixel-peepers will tell me... I really see no sense in putting more than 12 MP pixels on the "little" (not compared to P&S cameras) 1.6 crop sensor. I prefer high ISO performance. Really, especially under low light.

Weather sealed? Like full weather sealing? Practical, but needs weather seeled lenses. Anyway, a good step.

FPS? I do not care much about that, 5 fps is enough for me. Even when shooting ice hockey. But 8 fps would be "nice to have".

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I would be interested in the ISO speeds and the noise levels. I believe also that it will have 14 bit processing, live view and anti-dust system. I would like it to have the "creative" modes remvoed, the camera looks "cheap" with such never-used modes. P, Tv, Av, M, C1, C2, C3 is just fine. Makes the camera look more professional.

I will skip the 40D anyway, as my 30D still remains a solid camera. And maybe I even skip the 50D. I want a shift lens mount on 1.6 crop. Canon should release a special "architecture" version, the 50Da with shift mount, allowing every FF lens becoming a shift lens.

Now back to reality...
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In reply to Bohdan, Aug 18, 2008

People here have been saying that ("more megapixels are bad for IQ") since the 8 MP 1.6-crop factor cameras. Yet, check out the reviews of the 450D. The IQ, including the low noise performance, is great.
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shawn_hubbard
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In reply to RainerRaffalski, Aug 18, 2008

he told me he "couldn't remember" not he "couldn't tell." I don't think he shoots a lot of sports / etc to be that interested in that specific feature.

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In reply to dopravopat, Aug 18, 2008

ok so taking it as real:

i'd be more interested in 10-12MP, 6.5fps, better high ISO, with 1dmkiin-ish AF than

weather-sealed, 15MP, slightly to some deal worse high ISO, OLED LCD, 8fps....

dopravopat wrote:

OK, so I will believe that for a moment...

1.6 crop? As expected. No point in putting a 1.3 crop in the xxD
line. Many people have already EF-S lenses or third party equivalents.

15MP? Interesting. Personally I believe that the limit for pixel
count on a 1.6 crop sensor is 12MP. I really doubt to see any real
life difference between 12 and 15 MP. I mean in resolution. Yet I
might be wrong. Some pixel-peepers will tell me... I really see
no sense in putting more than 12 MP pixels on the "little" (not
compared to P&S cameras) 1.6 crop sensor. I prefer high ISO
performance. Really, especially under low light.

Weather sealed? Like full weather sealing? Practical, but needs
weather seeled lenses. Anyway, a good step.

FPS? I do not care much about that, 5 fps is enough for me. Even when
shooting ice hockey. But 8 fps would be "nice to have".

-

I would be interested in the ISO speeds and the noise levels. I
believe also that it will have 14 bit processing, live view and
anti-dust system. I would like it to have the "creative" modes
remvoed, the camera looks "cheap" with such never-used modes. P, Tv,
Av, M, C1, C2, C3 is just fine. Makes the camera look more
professional.

I will skip the 40D anyway, as my 30D still remains a solid camera.
And maybe I even skip the 50D. I want a shift lens mount on 1.6
crop. Canon should release a special "architecture" version, the 50Da
with shift mount, allowing every FF lens becoming a shift lens.

Now back to reality...
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In reply to shawn_hubbard, Aug 18, 2008

shawn_hubbard wrote:

he told me he "couldn't remember" not he "couldn't tell." I don't
think he shoots a lot of sports / etc to be that interested in that
specific feature.

so nothing about AF then?

more than anything i'd like it to have 1dmkiin-ish AF even if with only half to 1/3 the points.

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In reply to shawn_hubbard, Aug 18, 2008

Hi

This is about exactly how the development goes (compare to the competitors) . It is easier to add mpxs than important things like dynamic range....

People buy megapixels not so much image quality. A good commercial move !

Weather sealing sounds good.

I believe it will be only 14mp not 15 ...

But is this news or interesting - not to me . Unpredictable fine features - remains to be seen. Better IQ ... ; )

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Re: 50D news...not rumor
In reply to shawn_hubbard, Aug 18, 2008

seriously this is BS and pure trolling..its a rumor... no canon rep would share these infos with a friend on the phone...

only fact is that we will see a 50D in 2009

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In reply to Stollen123, Aug 18, 2008

is pretty serious. Besides, my aunt's sister twice removed said Canon was going to skip the 50D and go right to an 80D naming convention. She told me this on her cell phone while on a surf board in Hawaii.

Stollen123 wrote:

seriously this is BS and pure trolling..its a rumor... no canon rep
would share these infos with a friend on the phone...

only fact is that we will see a 50D in 2009

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aureliandan
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I don't believe you :)
In reply to shawn_hubbard, Aug 18, 2008

You are shooting with a markIII and give us only this stupid news ... 15 MP weather bla bla but nothing important ...

I'm sure your "friend" will read your post ...

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In reply to Bohdan, Aug 18, 2008

Bohdan wrote:

15 mpxiels on a 1.6 crop.....

Unless they've totally redesigned the sensor hardware.... I don't see
this as a positive step.

This 15mp 50D rumor is starting to get persistent.

It is known for sure that Canon have a new sensor plant (supposedly operational since July) and a high-res technology (they demoed a 50mp 1.3x sensor already).

So, they can most probably do 15mp on a 1.6x crop. It doesn’t make sense to me, though.
I’d rather have 12mp but with better ISO.

Besides, unless they got rid of the AA filter, 15mp is just empty magnification. Even the best L primes would be outresolved - big time.

How about less noise at higher ISO, a flash commander type function
built into the camera body, better AF, better metering.... you
know... stuff that actually has an affect on taking the shot and the
quality of the output. Weather sealing is a good thing so I'll
concede on that one.

+100.

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Well, the Ravens site shows some guy w/same name
In reply to aureliandan, Aug 18, 2008

Here it is
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Media/Photo_Landing.aspx?q=Shawn+Hubbard

Still, seems a bit odd to risk outing your dealer friend since you could probably figure out who the dealer in Baltimore is !

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n/t
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Well if Canon can pull off a 15MP sensor and maintain 30D noise levels...with ISO up to 6,400, weather sealing and a high def screen and keep the price lower then a D300....which is what Canon needs to do. They will at least make people loose sleep. I will laugh at all the fools that jumped to Nikon to get a D300 only to have to sell their stuff again to come back.

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In reply to Hemidart, Aug 18, 2008

First of all, I never said the guy I know is a Canon REP. I said he was a Canon Dealer...big difference.

Secondly, I really could care less about the 50D. I'm more worried about my Mark IIIs performing correctly. And neither my dealer nor me would benefit from simply handcrafting a story of this nature.

I originally posted because he told me that Canon made no mention of any type of "5D replacement" happening before Photokina, whereas the 50D is to be released before Photokina.

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