D700 irritation

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Decca
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D700 irritation
Jul 26, 2008

Picked up my D700 yesterday and spent a couple of hours setting it up to have the same settings as my D3.

I was disappointed to discover that it has kept the autofocus point illumination functionality of the D300 rather than that of the D3 - in other words, when in continous shooting mode, when tracking a moving object, the focus points are not illuminated as they dance around the subject.

This can be a significant issue for certain scenarios such as the first dance of the bride and groom in a dark room - you just cannot see the active focus points unless they are illuminated.

I was intending to use the D700 rather than the D3 when only carrying one camera (typically towards the end of a 10-hour wedding day, when my arms are starting to complain), but that strategy may not work out after all.

Let's hope a firmware update will address this issue - or perhaps it's one of the features Nikon are reserving for the D3.

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In reply to Decca, Jul 26, 2008

Perhaps I misunderstand your problem, but you can illuminate your AF points in the menu.

I'm coming from D3 to D700, and I don't see too many differences out of the fact that you could ajust the brightness of the AF points in D3, something what apparently isn't possible in D700...
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In reply to photoforfun, Jul 26, 2008

Yes you can, and I do have the illumination set to ON, but that does not solve this particular issue - unless I have a fault.

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D700 as a 2nd camera at a wedding?? Other times??
In reply to Decca, Jul 26, 2008

I am trying to decide if I need/should get a D700. I have a D3, as well as a bunch of others (5 total) and a 2nd shooter. Most recently, I have been shooting with the D3 and D2h. And my 2nd shooter with a D300 and D200. We only really use both cameras during the ceremony...then pretty much just one camera for everything else.

But when I am not shooting a wedding...I like to carry two cameras...one short lens...one long. Since getting the D3...I have just haven't really even liked shooting with a 2nd camera like I used to.

I just am having a hard time pulling the trigger on yet ANOTHER body when I have so many that do nearly just as good. It would be nice to have the D700 when I don't want to carry the D3...like I did up to Hurricane Ridge in Olympic NP yesterday. I was pretty envious of the D40 toting folks.

So...with you having a D3 already...how did you justify/decide to go ahead and get a D700 also???? What are your thoughts now???

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In reply to Decca, Jul 26, 2008

Decca wrote:

Picked up my D700 yesterday and spent a couple of hours setting it up
to have the same settings as my D3.

I was disappointed to discover that it has kept the autofocus point
illumination functionality of the D300 rather than that of the D3 -
in other words, when in continous shooting mode, when tracking a
moving object, the focus points are not illuminated as they dance
around the subject.

Decca

Try the 51 points in 3D tracking mode and see if it works ;-)!

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In reply to Decca, Jul 26, 2008

Decca wrote:

Picked up my D700 yesterday and spent a couple of hours setting it up
to have the same settings as my D3.

I was disappointed to discover that it has kept the autofocus point
illumination functionality of the D300 rather than that of the D3 -
in other words, when in continous shooting mode, when tracking a
moving object, the focus points are not illuminated as they dance
around the subject.

This can be a significant issue for certain scenarios such as the
first dance of the bride and groom in a dark room - you just cannot
see the active focus points unless they are illuminated.

I was intending to use the D700 rather than the D3 when only carrying
one camera (typically towards the end of a 10-hour wedding day, when
my arms are starting to complain), but that strategy may not work out
after all.

Let's hope a firmware update will address this issue - or perhaps
it's one of the features Nikon are reserving for the D3.

It's a normal camera setting as the d700 has a different (lcd) focus screen than the d3.

This means that it's not interchangeable nor can illuminate active AF points in continuos mode.

Ps: people must read all the specs and features before buying a camera...or at least try them out in the stores, especially those which are important or their work

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hmmm...
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....and let the whining begin...

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In reply to Doug Pitts, Jul 26, 2008

For those of you hoping for a discount on some D700 returns, your chance is coming soon.

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Decca wrote:

I was disappointed to discover that it has kept the autofocus point
illumination functionality of the D300 rather than that of the D3 -
in other words, when in continous shooting mode, when tracking a
moving object, the focus points are not illuminated as they dance
around the subject.

What focus mode do you have it on? 51pt? 3D ?

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Drew Loker wrote:

So...with you having a D3 already...how did you justify/decide to go
ahead and get a D700 also???? What are your thoughts now???

Simple: it's full frame in a smaller body. Since I've always wanted to be shooting full frame since the early days of digital and carry two bodies, a D3 and D700 are lighter than two D3s. IQ is the same. On board commander mode provides added flexibility even though I'll be using an SB-900 most of the time.

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In reply to Drew Loker, Jul 26, 2008

Hi Drew

I shoot with a D3 and 24-70 as my main camera and D300 and 70-200 for the long shots - there isn't time to mess about changing lenses at a wedding.

However, when needing a long shot (for example, from the back of a dark church), at times I was putting the 70-200 on the D3 (to get the better hi-iso quality), defeating the whole purpose of having two bodies to avoid changing lenses!

Also, the D700 is a better back-up if something goes wrong with the D3 - cuts out the crop-factor issue with the 24-70 becoming too long.

Primarily, however, I was wanting the lighter body for the evening receptions at weddings, when I stick to just the one body.

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In reply to lunaticois12, Jul 26, 2008

There is some value to the op's post and warning.

In the rush to upgrade it is EASY to overlook a feature that might be important to you.

People can then use the OP's experience to help see if it might be a problem for them, too.

Telling people to read the manual and understand it all is not very helpful. Why would anyone post and read here if the answer is always just to read the manual?

I used to read manuals from cover to cover several times over. As the quality of manual writing has gone down, and features have increased (and my attention span has gotten shorter) those days are long gone.

Good menu design and consistent use of terminology and placement solves a LOT of the problems.

Learning from other people's mistakes is one of the reasons for these forums.

Of course there is one friendly unintended byproduct of telling someone to read the manual: it prevents the OP from having to bump his own post to the top again.

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In reply to Decca, Jul 26, 2008

that's a shame - that's where i find it really helps me know what it's tracking on my d3 for sports.

glad you advised of that one - i for one didn't like the d700 focus points - reminded me too much of the old nikon way of doesn't things rather than the new way.

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Yes - 51pt 3D
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In reply to Decca, Jul 26, 2008

I really don't believe you because I don'T know why would Nikon put this out of D700.

You are doing user error handling with D700.

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Decca wrote:

Picked up my D700 yesterday and spent a couple of hours setting it up
to have the same settings as my D3.

I was disappointed to discover that it has kept the autofocus point
illumination functionality of the D300 rather than that of the D3 -
in other words, when in continous shooting mode, when tracking a
moving object, the focus points are not illuminated as they dance
around the subject.

This can be a significant issue for certain scenarios such as the
first dance of the bride and groom in a dark room - you just cannot
see the active focus points unless they are illuminated.

I was intending to use the D700 rather than the D3 when only carrying
one camera (typically towards the end of a 10-hour wedding day, when
my arms are starting to complain), but that strategy may not work out
after all.

Let's hope a firmware update will address this issue - or perhaps
it's one of the features Nikon are reserving for the D3.

From what I understand reading the manual, autofocus point illumination has to be set to "auto" in order to do this as well as 51 point 3d tracking. I believe these were pages 286 and 288 of the manual.

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Switching lenses...
In reply to Decca, Jul 26, 2008

Decca wrote:

However, when needing a long shot (for example, from the back of a
dark church), at times I was putting the 70-200 on the D3 (to get the
better hi-iso quality), defeating the whole purpose of having two
bodies to avoid changing lenses!

Wow! That is EXACTLY what I am talking about.

For the past 3-4 weddings, I have been trying to find my grove with two bodies...as I had before the D3. Lately, for the ceremony, I have been putting the 70-200 on the D3 as soon as I am done with the procession and have gotten into place for the remainder of the ceremony. And putting the 24-120 on the D2h. I almost got caught at this last wedding switching from UWA back to the 24-120...so I will go back to using the D40 also for a few UWA. The problem is that the D3 is SOOOOOO much better with the UWA than the D40...or rather, the D3 with the 24-120 is so much better than the D40 with anything...that after trying to use three cameras at a couple of weddings...and STILL wanting to put everything on the D3...I gave up.

Thus, the thoughts of getting the D700. Glad to know I am not alone on having challenges changing lenses. I see so many other wed photographers only use one lens...I just don't get it. The problem I am have is that it is such a short period of time...and that I used to do an entire wedding with the D2h and various other bodies (D100, D70, D200, D40) and have a 2nd shooter at every wedding...that it is hard to justify spending another $3k just to have a camera for 15 minutes of a wedding to not have to switch lenses. Seems over kill. But then, there are lots of other times that I would rather carry the D3 quality in a SUB-D3 format (sans grip). However, the recent addition of a SB-400 has negated SOME of the envies of a sub-DSLR.

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Drew Loker wrote:

Decca wrote:

However, when needing a long shot (for example, from the back of a
dark church), at times I was putting the 70-200 on the D3 (to get the
better hi-iso quality), defeating the whole purpose of having two
bodies to avoid changing lenses!

Wow! That is EXACTLY what I am talking about.

For the past 3-4 weddings, I have been trying to find my grove with
two bodies...as I had before the D3. Lately, for the ceremony, I have
been putting the 70-200 on the D3 as soon as I am done with the
procession and have gotten into place for the remainder of the
ceremony. And putting the 24-120 on the D2h. I almost got caught at
this last wedding switching from UWA back to the 24-120...so I will
go back to using the D40 also for a few UWA. The problem is that the
D3 is SOOOOOO much better with the UWA than the D40...or rather, the
D3 with the 24-120 is so much better than the D40 with
anything...that after trying to use three cameras at a couple of
weddings...and STILL wanting to put everything on the D3...I gave up.

Thus, the thoughts of getting the D700. Glad to know I am not alone
on having challenges changing lenses. I see so many other wed
photographers only use one lens...I just don't get it. The problem I
am have is that it is such a short period of time...and that I used
to do an entire wedding with the D2h and various other bodies (D100,
D70, D200, D40) and have a 2nd shooter at every wedding...that it is
hard to justify spending another $3k just to have a camera for 15
minutes of a wedding to not have to switch lenses. Seems over kill.
But then, there are lots of other times that I would rather carry the
D3 quality in a SUB-D3 format (sans grip). However, the recent
addition of a SB-400 has negated SOME of the envies of a sub-DSLR.

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Excuse my ignorance what is "UWA".

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lopezziito wrote:

Excuse my ignorance what is "UWA".

Take your pick:
Ultra Wide Angle
University of West Alabama
Ubiquitous Web Applications
United Workers Association
Urban Wrestling Alliance

It threw me too so I googled

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UWA...Ultra Wide Angle...
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lopezziito wrote:

Excuse my ignorance what is "UWA".

Sorry...I spend to much time on the lens forum. Not to mention that I just went through yet another search for the perfect UWA (when I say perfect, I mean size, weight and $).

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