Spoiler: 5D MkII

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nougat
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Spoiler: 5D MkII
Jul 8, 2008

Here is the latest correct information about the upcoming 5D MkII. Don't bother arguing because this information is 105% accurate. Here we go.

  • Will be announced Monday, September 8, 2008

  • MSRP: $2,399.95 (SSP: $2,199.95), body only

  • 16MP FF sensor

  • 6 FPS

  • Max ISO 25,600 (for what it's worth...it's more for marketing)

  • Full weather sealing

  • VGA-resolution display (from same supplier Sony uses for their new Handycams, except in 4:3 aspect ratio here)

  • Pop-up flash

  • Anti-dust features

  • NO Live View

  • NO pro AF from 1D (although all points are cross-type)

  • NO video mode whatsoever (silliest rumor I've ever heard)

  • NO compatibility with EF-S lenses (physically impossible anyway)

  • NO electronic crop mode for faster shot rate

  • NO HDMI-out

  • NO UDMA CF support

As you can see, it's by no means ground-breaking. It's not going to out-do the Nikon D700 in performance or features (although overall IQ will be very close or indistinguishable). But it will be significantly cheaper. It's aimed at the more "manual" shooter.

Original 5D will continue to be sold at $1,799.95 (SSP) without any rebates until stock is depleted.

Canon won't have a revolutionary product for almost another year from now.

My friend is an elf and his boss gets early information and shipments in order to prepare for the holiday season.

Arash Moallemi
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Re: Spoiler: 5D MkII
In reply to nougat, Jul 8, 2008

Humm

I don't know if I buy the no Live view...
even the Rebels have it...
am

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ScottyNV
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does nothing for me...
In reply to nougat, Jul 8, 2008

so I'll be soldiering on with my 'old' 5D for another generation or two.

I'm holding out for a true monochrome version of the current model (no bayer matrix) with 16 bit greyscale depth and a lower ISO range for long exposures without stacking multiple ND filters.

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Don't feed the troll, pliz! (nt)
In reply to nougat, Jul 8, 2008

(NT)=NO TEXT

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bronxbombers
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Re: Spoiler: 5D MkII
In reply to nougat, Jul 8, 2008

kinda weird thye would not put in liveview! Especially if they claim it is for the more "manual" shooter. I mean to wait three years and not even out that in.
seems kinda dubious.

no por-AF would be a mistake.

anyway doesn't sound reasonabe, if it is, sticking with 40D for now or maybe if happen across some amazing mkiii deal, if another year from now nikon is doing even more, would make one really think...

but no liveview makes this seem ridiculous

nougat wrote:

Here is the latest correct information about the upcoming 5D MkII.
Don't bother arguing because this information is 105% accurate. Here
we go.

  • Will be announced Monday, September 8, 2008

  • MSRP: $2,399.95 (SSP: $2,199.95), body only

  • 16MP FF sensor

  • 6 FPS

  • Max ISO 25,600 (for what it's worth...it's more for marketing)

  • Full weather sealing

  • VGA-resolution display (from same supplier Sony uses for their new

Handycams, except in 4:3 aspect ratio here)

  • Pop-up flash

  • Anti-dust features

  • NO Live View

  • NO pro AF from 1D (although all points are cross-type)

  • NO video mode whatsoever (silliest rumor I've ever heard)

  • NO compatibility with EF-S lenses (physically impossible anyway)

  • NO electronic crop mode for faster shot rate

  • NO HDMI-out

  • NO UDMA CF support

As you can see, it's by no means ground-breaking. It's not going to
out-do the Nikon D700 in performance or features (although overall IQ
will be very close or indistinguishable). But it will be
significantly cheaper. It's aimed at the more "manual" shooter.

Original 5D will continue to be sold at $1,799.95 (SSP) without any
rebates until stock is depleted.

Canon won't have a revolutionary product for almost another year from
now.

My friend is an elf and his boss gets early information and shipments
in order to prepare for the holiday season.

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Camera Dog
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incorrect info
In reply to nougat, Jul 8, 2008

nice comment about the elf.

if the elf really did know something, they would have commented on the one really interesting new feature

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chinch
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Re: Spoiler: 5D MkII
In reply to nougat, Jul 8, 2008

More wild speculation...

but to play along this would do VERY WELL due to PRICING of FF combined with MP (16 > 12) and about equal high ISO as the nikons. 6fps is more than enough for 95% of the shooters too. All cross-sensors would be sufficient also and the nub for focus select is very easy to use. live view is not an issue.

nougat wrote:

Here is the latest correct information about the upcoming 5D MkII.
Don't bother arguing because this information is 105% accurate. Here
we go.

  • Will be announced Monday, September 8, 2008

  • MSRP: $2,399.95 (SSP: $2,199.95), body only

  • 16MP FF sensor

  • 6 FPS

  • Max ISO 25,600 (for what it's worth...it's more for marketing)

  • Full weather sealing

  • VGA-resolution display (from same supplier Sony uses for their new

Handycams, except in 4:3 aspect ratio here)

  • Pop-up flash

  • Anti-dust features

  • NO Live View

  • NO pro AF from 1D (although all points are cross-type)

  • NO video mode whatsoever (silliest rumor I've ever heard)

  • NO compatibility with EF-S lenses (physically impossible anyway)

  • NO electronic crop mode for faster shot rate

  • NO HDMI-out

  • NO UDMA CF support

As you can see, it's by no means ground-breaking. It's not going to
out-do the Nikon D700 in performance or features (although overall IQ
will be very close or indistinguishable). But it will be
significantly cheaper. It's aimed at the more "manual" shooter.

Original 5D will continue to be sold at $1,799.95 (SSP) without any
rebates until stock is depleted.

Canon won't have a revolutionary product for almost another year from
now.

My friend is an elf and his boss gets early information and shipments
in order to prepare for the holiday season.

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JeffCarlB
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Re: incorrect info
In reply to Camera Dog, Jul 8, 2008

As long as it has a print button im in.

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MirkoK
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ANY new dslr will have live view!!!!
In reply to Arash Moallemi, Jul 8, 2008

someone, as many, needs some attention!
cheers

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AdityaDatta
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sounds great
In reply to nougat, Jul 8, 2008

All the features that most expect are in there. The only one that you probably are wrong about as others have pointed out is live view. Other than that this would be a fantastic camera for the money. (6FPS is enough, if you need more, you should be getting 1DMKIII)

nougat wrote:

Here is the latest correct information about the upcoming 5D MkII.
Don't bother arguing because this information is 105% accurate. Here
we go.

  • Will be announced Monday, September 8, 2008

  • MSRP: $2,399.95 (SSP: $2,199.95), body only

  • 16MP FF sensor

  • 6 FPS

  • Max ISO 25,600 (for what it's worth...it's more for marketing)

  • Full weather sealing

  • VGA-resolution display (from same supplier Sony uses for their new

Handycams, except in 4:3 aspect ratio here)

  • Pop-up flash

  • Anti-dust features

  • NO Live View

  • NO pro AF from 1D (although all points are cross-type)

  • NO video mode whatsoever (silliest rumor I've ever heard)

  • NO compatibility with EF-S lenses (physically impossible anyway)

  • NO electronic crop mode for faster shot rate

  • NO HDMI-out

  • NO UDMA CF support

As you can see, it's by no means ground-breaking. It's not going to
out-do the Nikon D700 in performance or features (although overall IQ
will be very close or indistinguishable). But it will be
significantly cheaper. It's aimed at the more "manual" shooter.

Original 5D will continue to be sold at $1,799.95 (SSP) without any
rebates until stock is depleted.

Canon won't have a revolutionary product for almost another year from
now.

My friend is an elf and his boss gets early information and shipments
in order to prepare for the holiday season.

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photomad
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Re: Spoiler: 5D MkII
In reply to nougat, Jul 8, 2008

Yeah I to find it hard to believe there will be no live view. Its not a feature Im fond of but seems that all cameras have it now. I think the rest sounds reasonable though. I never really bought into the 20 megapixel thing, it would have made the 1ds3 rather unsaleable unless they down specd the rest of the camera. I think if this is true than the 5d mk1 will be an excellent buy.

nougat wrote:

Here is the latest correct information about the upcoming 5D MkII.
Don't bother arguing because this information is 105% accurate. Here
we go.

  • Will be announced Monday, September 8, 2008

  • MSRP: $2,399.95 (SSP: $2,199.95), body only

  • 16MP FF sensor

  • 6 FPS

  • Max ISO 25,600 (for what it's worth...it's more for marketing)

  • Full weather sealing

  • VGA-resolution display (from same supplier Sony uses for their new

Handycams, except in 4:3 aspect ratio here)

  • Pop-up flash

  • Anti-dust features

  • NO Live View

  • NO pro AF from 1D (although all points are cross-type)

  • NO video mode whatsoever (silliest rumor I've ever heard)

  • NO compatibility with EF-S lenses (physically impossible anyway)

  • NO electronic crop mode for faster shot rate

  • NO HDMI-out

  • NO UDMA CF support

As you can see, it's by no means ground-breaking. It's not going to
out-do the Nikon D700 in performance or features (although overall IQ
will be very close or indistinguishable). But it will be
significantly cheaper. It's aimed at the more "manual" shooter.

Original 5D will continue to be sold at $1,799.95 (SSP) without any
rebates until stock is depleted.

Canon won't have a revolutionary product for almost another year from
now.

My friend is an elf and his boss gets early information and shipments
in order to prepare for the holiday season.

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nikhgan
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Re: Spoiler: 5D MkII
In reply to nougat, Jul 8, 2008

The spec is not bad compare to the 5D and they worth the $600 price differences.

I think 5D MKII will probably have cleaner ISO than D700. The price is right too. It will be selling like hot cakes.

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natureman
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In reply to photomad, Jul 8, 2008

photomad wrote:

Yeah I to find it hard to believe there will be no live view. Its not
a feature Im fond of but seems that all cameras have it now. I think
the rest sounds reasonable though. I never really bought into the 20
megapixel thing, it would have made the 1ds3 rather unsaleable unless
they down specd the rest of the camera. I think if this is true than
the 5d mk1 will be an excellent buy.

If this is true?????????????

nougat wrote:

Here is the latest correct information about the upcoming 5D MkII.
Don't bother arguing because this information is 105% accurate. Here
we go.

  • Will be announced Monday, September 8, 2008

  • MSRP: $2,399.95 (SSP: $2,199.95), body only

  • 16MP FF sensor

  • 6 FPS

  • Max ISO 25,600 (for what it's worth...it's more for marketing)

  • Full weather sealing

  • VGA-resolution display (from same supplier Sony uses for their new

Handycams, except in 4:3 aspect ratio here)

  • Pop-up flash

  • Anti-dust features

  • NO Live View

  • NO pro AF from 1D (although all points are cross-type)

  • NO video mode whatsoever (silliest rumor I've ever heard)

  • NO compatibility with EF-S lenses (physically impossible anyway)

  • NO electronic crop mode for faster shot rate

  • NO HDMI-out

  • NO UDMA CF support

As you can see, it's by no means ground-breaking. It's not going to
out-do the Nikon D700 in performance or features (although overall IQ
will be very close or indistinguishable). But it will be
significantly cheaper. It's aimed at the more "manual" shooter.

Original 5D will continue to be sold at $1,799.95 (SSP) without any
rebates until stock is depleted.

Canon won't have a revolutionary product for almost another year from
now.

My friend is an elf and his boss gets early information and shipments
in order to prepare for the holiday season.

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Anastigmat
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In reply to nougat, Jul 8, 2008

Actually there are people who know about the specs of the 5DMKII. If we can get a hold of the manuscript for the leaked 5DMKII guide book, we will have all the specs and features we want to know.

What we need is a reporter with lock picking skills. He can go into the residence of the guide book author, and steal the manuscript. When asked about the source of the information, the reporter can use the shield law and claims that he has a right to keep the identity of his source (in this case himself) confidential. LOL.

nougat wrote:

Here is the latest correct information about the upcoming 5D MkII.
Don't bother arguing because this information is 105% accurate. Here
we go.

  • Will be announced Monday, September 8, 2008

  • MSRP: $2,399.95 (SSP: $2,199.95), body only

  • 16MP FF sensor

  • 6 FPS

  • Max ISO 25,600 (for what it's worth...it's more for marketing)

  • Full weather sealing

  • VGA-resolution display (from same supplier Sony uses for their new

Handycams, except in 4:3 aspect ratio here)

  • Pop-up flash

  • Anti-dust features

  • NO Live View

  • NO pro AF from 1D (although all points are cross-type)

  • NO video mode whatsoever (silliest rumor I've ever heard)

  • NO compatibility with EF-S lenses (physically impossible anyway)

  • NO electronic crop mode for faster shot rate

  • NO HDMI-out

  • NO UDMA CF support

As you can see, it's by no means ground-breaking. It's not going to
out-do the Nikon D700 in performance or features (although overall IQ
will be very close or indistinguishable). But it will be
significantly cheaper. It's aimed at the more "manual" shooter.

Original 5D will continue to be sold at $1,799.95 (SSP) without any
rebates until stock is depleted.

Canon won't have a revolutionary product for almost another year from
now.

My friend is an elf and his boss gets early information and shipments
in order to prepare for the holiday season.

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I cant wait to see you eat your words when your proven wrong...
In reply to nougat, Jul 8, 2008

This is the cream of the crop people... I dont beleive a word of it and sitting in my office laughing my head off.

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Re: ANY new dslr will have live view!!!!
In reply to MirkoK, Jul 8, 2008

While I dont see the need for live view personally. I have to agree that all cameras today will come out with live view... Its just the nature of the beast...

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Robert A
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In reply to nougat, Jul 8, 2008

If true, I'm glad they're staying to the basics. Just don't understand the pop up flash, though. $2,199 and I'm there. Timeline seems credible, but I question that pricing would be firmed up at the corporate level. Usually those decisions are made last.
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Don't see much value in it. I'd rather see fewer features anyway so that my mind is on the photography rather than the complexities of a camera.
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Regarding the $1,799 price for original 5Ds....
In reply to Robert A, Jul 8, 2008

Could the original poster (nougat) clarify this following statement?

"Original 5D will continue to be sold at $1,799.95 (SSP) without any rebates until stock is depleted. "

I know this the the cheapest price WITH rebates for body only ( which ends on the 19th of July ) but you are saying that even after the 19th it will then be priced at $1,799 reg. price??? If so, great!

So they're no longer going to produce the original 5D AT ALL after the new model debuts?? That's what I was told for the Rebel XT when xTi came out but I'm still seeing XTs sold everywhere. Plus, the XT only dropped slightly in price but not rock bottom like you'd think with a newer model outdoing it.

Anyhow, if the above news is accurate then I can take my time before buying my 5D.

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In reply to nougat, Jul 8, 2008

Will it have the micro-focus adjustment settings for lenses?

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