D700 and SB900, no D90

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D700 and SB900, no D90
Jun 30, 2008

A German mag has the news about the D700 and SB900. Announcement later this week, likely tomorrow. No D90, it seems:

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Re: D700 and SB900, no D90
In reply to rhlpetrus, Jun 30, 2008

That was my guess in an earlier post on this site. There simply have not been enough leaks of solid information to fit with a trully mass production cam.

Do we know which time zone for 1st July announcement i.e will it break late tonight in the UK?

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Re: D700 and SB900, no D90
In reply to Chris Elliott, Jun 30, 2008

Well Thom Hogan said last week that Nikon would announce the 1st of new camera releases this week , not all of them at once.
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I think Photokina or August for the D90, exactly 2 years from D80's announcement.
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more details in the D300 - D100 Forum
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D80 a prize in Nikon international contest
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From the contest page:

2nd Prize 10 (5 from each category) Nikon Digital SLR Camera D80
AF-S DX NIKKOR 16-85mm F3.5-5.6G ED VR

Since this contest will end only next year, does it mean the D80 will still be current in 2009 ...? Can't be.
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PMA next year my guess
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This would jibe with what's inferred about Nikon's strategy: that they'll be giving up market share and unit volume this year in the pursuit of higher end cameras.

From a feature perspective the lower end of their lineup is looking dated. Maybe Nikon intends to hold the fort by cutting prices.
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Re: PMA next year my guess
In reply to Allen George, Jun 30, 2008

In fact, Nikon is the companythat makes more money per unit camera sold. They sell more D300s alone than any other brand dslr totals (excluding Canon OC), about 700,000/year. Another 150,000 D3s. Maybe they are happy selling 3 million dslrs a year and just want to keep share and take control of high-end. But you always need to keep a large base of future upgraders, so I think they still need to keep entry-level cameras competitive.

Still think Photokina for D90 and PMA for D60+, with 12MP Cmos like D300, LV, etc.
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I don't know about that . . .
In reply to rhlpetrus, Jun 30, 2008

rhlpetrus wrote:

In fact, Nikon is the companythat makes more money per unit camera
sold.

Do you have a source for this? My understanding is that Canon's gross margin in the camera business is higher than Nikon's.
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Re: D700 and SB900, no D90
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cool, no d90:D

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Overshadowed, or non-existent?
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rhlpetrus wrote:

A German mag has the news about the D700 and SB900. Announcement
later this week, likely tomorrow. No D90, it seems:

I've been noticing that there haven't been any rumors on the D80 successor and that begs the question as to whether it's being overshadowed by all the D700 rumors or if it's flat out non-existent.

That said, I will say that the D80, for its age, seems to still look rather good compared to the competition. It was well built and outside of a few of thew fancier new features (ala live view, etc) it's really still a very competitive camera in today's market if you ask me. Nikon likely has very little pressure to upgrade it just yet despite it being "due for upgrade" for several months now.

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Re: Overshadowed, or non-existent?
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glasswindow wrote:

rhlpetrus wrote:

A German mag has the news about the D700 and SB900. Announcement
later this week, likely tomorrow. No D90, it seems:

I've been noticing that there haven't been any rumors on the D80
successor and that begs the question as to whether it's being
overshadowed by all the D700 rumors or if it's flat out non-existent.

That said, I will say that the D80, for its age, seems to still look
rather good compared to the competition. It was well built and
outside of a few of thew fancier new features (ala live view, etc)
it's really still a very competitive camera in today's market if you
ask me. Nikon likely has very little pressure to upgrade it just yet
despite it being "due for upgrade" for several months now.

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Yup,

The D80 is still hangin' in there as one of the best buys out there....especially at today's prices.... great machine.....B&H --> > $729. I bought 2 more... as grad gifts...
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All in due time...
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glasswindow wrote:

I've been noticing that there haven't been any rumors on the D80
successor and that begs the question as to whether it's being
overshadowed by all the D700 rumors or if it's flat out non-existent.

I believe the D90 is in the works. No one seems to be able to guess Nikon's timing and priorities. Now it looks like they want a 5D challenger out first. Makes sense in a way, there was a gap there. What's next? Both 1DsIII challenger and the D90 will come.

If you have a working camera (D70 here), it's easier to wait. I hope the D90 will be price and feature "adjusted" for the recent Sony/Pentax/Canon offerings. Until then, the 80 and 300 cover the bases nicely, although arguably with another gap...

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Re: I don't know about that . . .
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Allen George wrote:

rhlpetrus wrote:

In fact, Nikon is the companythat makes more money per unit camera
sold.

Do you have a source for this? My understanding is that Canon's gross
margin in the camera business is higher than Nikon's.
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Total yes, Canon sales are around 12billion USD per year, Nikon about 5-6 Billion USD. But canon sells like 20+ million compacts, Nikon only 8 million.

Per unit camera Nikon's rate is more though.
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Here are high res images of German mag pages
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Nikon back to playing viewfinder games
In reply to rhlpetrus, Jun 30, 2008

If true, I guess Nikon is back to playing sleazy viewfinder marketing games again with a $3000 camera being chopped back down to only 95% coverage. Not pro in my books.
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No new lenses either, apparently. I guess we'll see tomorrow for sure. But this appears to be a "mini-announcement," I hope in August there will be more big news.

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From more knowledgeable folks in higher forums here, the image on this VF should be better than on a D300's. Nikon reserves 100% view for top models (D300 is the top model in DX). For example, the well-regarded F100 was also 95% view and those who have it and D300 say the VF of F100 is better regrading size and quality.

And, in fact D700 is not pro, but semi-pro: the entry-level FF below the top one, as much as the D100 was the entry-level semi-pro camera when introduced many years ago below the D1X.
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ericfordh wrote:

No new lenses either, apparently. I guess we'll see tomorrow for
sure. But this appears to be a "mini-announcement," I hope in August
there will be more big news.

The rumours last week were of 2 dslrs, maybe Nikon was able to keep the D90 a secret, but IMO no, it'll be announced in August in time for the Photokina, exactly 2 years after the D80's announcement.
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Nikon olympics... :D
In reply to Mr Fartleberry, Jun 30, 2008

Nikon just loves to play "market segmentation" games, and while customers may not always like them, they still seem to participate...

How my D70 scored in popular Nikon disciplines:

1. Viewfinder games - big loser
2. X-sync speed games - big winner!
3. mirror lock-up games - loser
4. AF compatibility games - winner
5. AI-S metering games - loser

Well, you can't win them all - even D3 loses in the X-sync competition! Seriously, even D40 could be absolutely brilliant if it wasn't crippled by design...

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