Guess Nikon D3X or Sony A900 comes first

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Vincent Kwan
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Guess Nikon D3X or Sony A900 comes first
May 2, 2008

97 days to Olympic. If Nikon or Sony is going to announce their 24MP flagship, now is the right moment. Since Nikon can only supply the new model to the market several months after the announcement. Or Sony wants to postpone the 24MP CMOS to Sep in order not to let the D3X show off in the Olympic? ;->

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Re: Guess Nikon D3X or Sony A900 comes first
In reply to Vincent Kwan, May 2, 2008

Given the speed tradeoff, I think Nikon would be quite happy to let the D3 show off at the games, no?

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Is D3x really linked to Olympics?
In reply to Vincent Kwan, May 2, 2008

I think the sports / high speed camera from Nikon is the D3 which was announced a long time ago so everyone can be sure it was fully available and properly tested and working by the time the Olympics arrive.

It would be very nice to have the D3x before the Olympics, but I don't think that is a high priority for Nikon, since the critical mass of buyers for that kind of camera won't be the journalist or general public attending the games.

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I totally Agree with Sebastian
In reply to Sebastián Oszlak, May 2, 2008

D3X is NOT the sports camera, though I'm sure it can be. Who would want to rummage through data taken at 5 fps @ 24+ MP? What a drain on a computer! The D3 writes data plenty fast to clog up most computers...

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Re: I totally Agree with Sebastian
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smhagger wrote:

D3X is NOT the sports camera, though I'm sure it can be. Who would
want to rummage through data taken at 5 fps @ 24+ MP? What a drain
on a computer! The D3 writes data plenty fast to clog up most
computers...

It's easy enough to shoot NEF + Basic JPG, rummage through the JPGs and use that nifty NEF delete script to delete the NEF's that aren't paired with a JPG. That's how I deal with D3 shoots from 10 to 1500 shots.

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Re: Guess Nikon D3X or Sony A900 comes first
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tao.design wrote:

Given the speed tradeoff, I think Nikon would be quite happy to let
the D3 show off at the games, no?

Actual sports aren't the only type of picture that gets shot at the Olympics. You're going to want a high-rez camera for the opening ceremonies, for example.

But the more important aspect of the Olympics, like a few other events, is the sheer number of professional photographers in one place. It'll be in the many thousands. And both Canon CPS and Nikon NPS are there in force. They generally use such venues to show off new equipment and have ubiquitous loaners available. There certainly will be D3, 200mm f/2, 300mm f/2.8, 400mm f/2.8, 500mm f/4, and 600mm f/4 all available for the sports, but it would be a missed opportunity not to have a D3x, D10, and any new lenses there, as well.

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Re: I totally Agree with Sebastian
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I suspect the D3x will be a pretty capable sports camera. Assuming it's just as the D3, but with a 24.2 MPix sensor, then it will have a 10MPix DX crop mode (as was shown by the firmware strings). The D3 electronics will process 10MPix at 10+ FPS. Given the sensor quality is a little better than Canon's, A 1.5x sensor might perform comparably with a 1.3x, in which case the D3x will be as good a sports camera as the 1DIII, with the added bonus of super high res images if needed. Pretty useful camera to have around.

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D3X is NOT the sports camera, though I'm sure it can be. Who would
want to rummage through data taken at 5 fps @ 24+ MP? What a drain
on a computer! The D3 writes data plenty fast to clog up most
computers...

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Re: I totally Agree with Sebastian
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That's very logical....but maybe even a 12MP DX instead of the 10....that would absolutely rock!

bobn2 wrote:
I suspect the D3x will be a pretty capable sports camera. Assuming
it's just as the D3, but with a 24.2 MPix sensor, then it will have a
10MPix DX crop mode (as was shown by the firmware strings). The D3
electronics will process 10MPix at 10+ FPS. Given the sensor quality
is a little better than Canon's, A 1.5x sensor might perform
comparably with a 1.3x, in which case the D3x will be as good a
sports camera as the 1DIII, with the added bonus of super high res
images if needed. Pretty useful camera to have around.

smhagger wrote:

D3X is NOT the sports camera, though I'm sure it can be. Who would
want to rummage through data taken at 5 fps @ 24+ MP? What a drain
on a computer! The D3 writes data plenty fast to clog up most
computers...

Sean

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For Thom////Re: Guess Nikon D3X or Sony A900 comes first
In reply to Thom Hogan, May 2, 2008

but it would be a missed opportunity not to have a D3x, D10, and any new lenses there, as well.

D10 you said... I'm sure you know more...please tell us more, please...

D3 FX sensor is D300 alike body would be absolutely perfect, for sooo many people... D3 is great but too big and too heavy, of course this is a personal opinion...

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Question for Thom Hogan: D10 you said???
In reply to Thom Hogan, May 2, 2008

but it would be a missed opportunity not to have a D3x, D10, and any new lenses there, as well.

D10 you said... I'm sure you know more...please tell us more, please...

D3 FX sensor is D300 alike body would be absolutely perfect, for sooo many people... D3 is great but too big and too heavy, of course this is a personal opinion...

D10 FX with 16-18Mp would even be better... I am curious if the new copy of Chasseur d'Images won't mention about it, they are always dead on in their predictions and much earlier with news than others...
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Re: I totally Agree with Sebastian
In reply to bobn2, May 2, 2008

10MPix DX crop mode (as was shown by the firmware strings). The D3
electronics will process 10MPix at 10+ FPS. Given the sensor quality
is a little better than Canon's, A 1.5x sensor might perform
comparably with a 1.3x,

I'd rather shoot with a full frame 12MP camera (the D3) than any cropped-sensor camera. Easier and more pleasant to shoot with that big viewfinder.

in which case the D3x will be as good a
sports camera as the 1DIII, with the added bonus of super high res
images if needed. Pretty useful camera to have around.

No doubt.

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Ditto!
In reply to Sebastián Oszlak, May 2, 2008

I think the sports / high speed camera from Nikon is the D3 which was
announced a long time ago so everyone can be sure it was fully
available and properly tested and working

This seems like a critical point to me. All Nikon needs right now with their tremendous momentum is a debacle with the D3x like Canon is going through.

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18MP FX D10 a rumour allright. :-) (nt)
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Hi Thom, lens forecast please!
In reply to Thom Hogan, May 3, 2008

Thom Hogan wrote:
but it would be a missed

opportunity not to have a D3x, D10, and any new lenses there, as well.

Hi Thom, please forecast if we will see these two lens before Olympics:

AF-S 70-200mm F/2.8 VRII + Nano coating
AF-S 85mm f/1.4

Any chance a AF-S 800mm f/5.6?

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I would KILL for a D10!
In reply to Thom Hogan, May 3, 2008

Or perhaps not. But i would easily cash out more than 3000 $ for it if it has D300 specks with a FX sensor.

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Can you elaborate? Search turned up nothing.

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Re: I would TAKE PICTURES with a D10...
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fabie wrote:

That's very logical....but maybe even a 12MP DX instead of the
10....that would absolutely rock!

We already know it's 10MPix (10.47 actually), two ways. i) The Firmware strings showed the resolution, 3968x2640. ii) Simple division by 1.5^2 of the full resolution.

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Important deadline - more for Canon
In reply to Vincent Kwan, May 4, 2008

Nikon's D3 is out there and works great. The only thing right now to "protect" canon's presence at the Olympics is their excellent marketing machine, and their stable of long lens's.
Perhaps nikon will have some additional lens anouncements before the olympics?

It would be useful and important for canon however, if they had a "root cause fix" for the 1DIII anounced, released and at least in the hands of a several pro shooters, to advertise that the 1DIII can work, finally, in bright daylight on a hot day.

Sony has yet to release a photojournalism / sports camera, nor have they suggested that they have one on the pipeline. Choosing to compete at the "high MP end' of the pro market, rather then the PJ market, allows them to compete based more on raw specs (like MP count) then on real world performance.

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Re: I would TAKE PICTURES with a D10...
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I would take pictures of me killing for a D10.

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