DP1 first impressions. + ISO400 - 1200 examples.

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Kendall Helmstetter Gelner
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Re: DP1 first impressions. + ISO400 - 1200 examples.
In reply to Rytterfalk, Mar 1, 2008

Great results, I'm glad to see more of your push experimentation...

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Vad fan, påsk redan?
In reply to Rytterfalk, Mar 1, 2008

Hej Carl

Great images. Love the first one. But have you not read that the DP-1 cannot do portraits?

I think a link to your webpage would silence the most stubborn dp-1 critics. Apart from those who have decided not to have one.

Great work, Carl. You are a master.

Rytterfalk wrote:

Just wanted to share a few pictures and first impressions on the DP1.
I had it since yesterday and I love it more and more. I already tried
extreme ISO's such as ISo3200 etc and it works the same way as the
SD14 with one difference. The lens is superb!

Speed. I shoot RAW and I never feel it's been slow or making me miss
a shot. Yet. I have a SanDisk SD extreme III - and it seams to work
great together. No timings yet. You can take three continues shots in
about a second if you like. (in RAW) Which is very useful for HDR.

Battery. From todays session - went out and took maybe 50 or so shots
and battery still shows full. Used manual focus (magnified view). I
think battery will be about the same as for the SD14.

Speed of review images. Fast - much faster than my SD14. Zooming in
etc is really quick and not sluggish at all. The LCD isn't as bright
as some other new small cameras but it's certainly not bad.
Especially when it comes to review already taken photos.

Now three high ISO shots from a couple of hours ago. ISO400 - 1200
Hand held "real world" examples. Bad weather! - SPP direct output.
Not seen PS.

finally ISO1200 (ISo400 pushed +1.6

Alright. Full versions on my flickr for the peaky ones.
http://www.flickr.com/rytterfalk

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Re: DP1 first impressions. + ISO400 - 1200 examples.
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great pics Carl.... DP1 is great...

Thank you

Best,

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Re: DP1 first impressions. + ISO400 - 1200 examples.
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Been waiting for this one a long time now... so YEAH!!:-D

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50mmf1 wrote:

What a den of thieves this is !It seems the only people to say
positive things about this camera are all taking back handers from
sigma.You certainly fooled me ryterfalk.

Even if this is true (for now), you must admit that Carl's photos speak for themselves.

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In reply to Rytterfalk, Mar 1, 2008

Those photos seem about the same quality as the SD14 - not really better...

I'll do the obvious thing, and I wonder nobody has had the idea before! AFAIK:

I'll just buy a coat with much bigger pockets and voila! there's your SD14 pocket camera! (with inside pockets and a hole for the lens, you just open the coat, hand in pocket and swissh, press the shutter). Might even stabilize the shot - great for street shots and you can even have an SD10 in the other pocket CPS: coat photograhy solution!

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In reply to ole thofte, Mar 1, 2008

LOL!

Might also make for some disappointed comments along the lines of:

"You are still dressed underneath!! Guess you are a newbie to exhibitionism!"

O.

ole thofte wrote:

Those photos seem about the same quality as the SD14 - not really
better...

I'll do the obvious thing, and I wonder nobody has had the idea
before! AFAIK:
I'll just buy a coat with much bigger pockets and voila! there's your
SD14 pocket camera! (with inside pockets and a hole for the lens, you
just open the coat, hand in pocket and swissh, press the shutter).
Might even stabilize the shot - great for street shots and you can
even have an SD10 in the other pocket CPS: coat photograhy
solution!

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I think he's saying, when using flash in manual...
In reply to Rytterfalk, Mar 1, 2008

Rytterfalk wrote:
This is how I take a picture.

1. Turn on the camera. (approx 1.5s) (lens goes out)
2. Press the shutter. (if you don't wanna manual focus or change
other settings)

done. Not sure what pre-flash means other than red eye reduction.

Rally Man wrote:

I've read that you need to pre-flashe in order to the auto exposure
to work even in manual mode, is this true? Or can you just take a
picture like any normal P&S?

I'm pretty sure he is wondering if when in manual mode, using the flash causes a pre-flash to fire (not just the flash itself).

My experience is yes, there is a pre-flash in manual - but the whole process is quick enough not to matter much. Can you verify?

Pre-flash in manual is possibly something they could adjust in a firmware update.

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External flash?
In reply to Rytterfalk, Mar 2, 2008

Your blog indicated that there's a cool external flash for the DP1. Do you have a photo of the flash on the camera?

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and while you are at it, Carl
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is there any possibility to fire an off-camera flash? Thanks a bunch!

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How do you go about creating images using DP-1 ISO ratings above 800. Detail steps please!

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Re: I think he's saying, when using flash in manual...
In reply to Kendall Helmstetter Gelner, Mar 2, 2008

Yeah Kendall, that's what I meant. Thanks.

Kendall Helmstetter Gelner wrote:

Rytterfalk wrote:
This is how I take a picture.

1. Turn on the camera. (approx 1.5s) (lens goes out)
2. Press the shutter. (if you don't wanna manual focus or change
other settings)

done. Not sure what pre-flash means other than red eye reduction.

Rally Man wrote:

I've read that you need to pre-flashe in order to the auto exposure
to work even in manual mode, is this true? Or can you just take a
picture like any normal P&S?

I'm pretty sure he is wondering if when in manual mode, using the
flash causes a pre-flash to fire (not just the flash itself).

My experience is yes, there is a pre-flash in manual - but the whole
process is quick enough not to matter much. Can you verify?

Pre-flash in manual is possibly something they could adjust in a
firmware update.

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In reply to yvind Strm, Mar 2, 2008

yvind Strm wrote:

Hej Carl

Hej Yvind - must admit your headline is extremely swedish.

Great images. Love the first one. But have you not read that the DP-1
cannot do portraits?

Yeah, it's a big problem.. people are afraid of getting closer which is part of the trick.

I think a link to your webpage would silence the most stubborn dp-1
critics. Apart from those who have decided not to have one.

Great work, Carl. You are a master.

Nu blev jag glad! Tack!

Rytterfalk wrote:

Just wanted to share a few pictures and first impressions on the DP1.
I had it since yesterday and I love it more and more. I already tried
extreme ISO's such as ISo3200 etc and it works the same way as the
SD14 with one difference. The lens is superb!

Speed. I shoot RAW and I never feel it's been slow or making me miss
a shot. Yet. I have a SanDisk SD extreme III - and it seams to work
great together. No timings yet. You can take three continues shots in
about a second if you like. (in RAW) Which is very useful for HDR.

Battery. From todays session - went out and took maybe 50 or so shots
and battery still shows full. Used manual focus (magnified view). I
think battery will be about the same as for the SD14.

Speed of review images. Fast - much faster than my SD14. Zooming in
etc is really quick and not sluggish at all. The LCD isn't as bright
as some other new small cameras but it's certainly not bad.
Especially when it comes to review already taken photos.

Now three high ISO shots from a couple of hours ago. ISO400 - 1200
Hand held "real world" examples. Bad weather! - SPP direct output.
Not seen PS.

finally ISO1200 (ISo400 pushed +1.6

Alright. Full versions on my flickr for the peaky ones.
http://www.flickr.com/rytterfalk

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or some shots with some close-up filters since it doesn't do macro?
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In reply to Rytterfalk, Mar 2, 2008

So youy would say it's fair to say to capture at no higher than ISO 400 (even ISO 200) and then just push all the way up? How far does the Sigma software raw developer allow you to push?

Thanks!

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Sounding as if DP1 is different than SD14--

"pre-flash in order to the auto exposure to work even in manual mode"

Pre-flash is red-eye reduction. In the SD14 menu there is an option for "AF Auxiliary Light". I don't use it because it taps the battery some. SD14 menu allows for turning off AF Auxiliary Light. It seems to me that when AF hunts or makes a mistake it's more a matter of finding an edge for the center focus box, and then AF works in dimmer light than I can manually focus.

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Carl, I love your B&W conversions. . . really cool! The question I have is what steps do you use in order to up ISO values? I plan on acquiring a DP-1 and would like to work beyond ISO 800. I already downloaded a copy of RD.

I work with a G4 Power Book (System 10.9). Any info you can send me is greatly appreciated.

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did you read the explanations on his website? http://www.rytterfalk.com
now I understand... kind of..

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hehe.. No, use the "correct" ISO if you can - use pushed ISO when you need. Shutter speeds possible for hand held use is what should drive you.

Raist3d wrote:

So youy would say it's fair to say to capture at no higher than ISO
400 (even ISO 200) and then just push all the way up? How far does
the Sigma software raw developer allow you to push?

Thanks!

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Re: Vad fan, påsk redan?
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Hej Carl

Rytterfalk wrote:

yvind Strm wrote:

Hej Carl

Hej Yvind - must admit your headline is extremely swedish.

Hehe, I did pick up a lot of swedish, spent 3 days a week in Stockholm (and sometimes Goetenburg/Malmoe/Skellefteå) for two years. And later 4-5 days a week in Malmoe/Lund for another two years.

Great images. Love the first one. But have you not read that the DP-1
cannot do portraits?

Yeah, it's a big problem.. people are afraid of getting closer
which is part of the trick.

I guess this is a big advantage for you when shooting at the nightclubs?

I tend to agree, shooting from a distance prevents the "meeting" between the photographer and the subject.

I think a link to your webpage would silence the most stubborn dp-1
critics. Apart from those who have decided not to have one.

Great work, Carl. You are a master.

Nu blev jag glad! Tack!

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