Tip: Zero Postprocessing for Christmas

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David Chin
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Tip: Zero Postprocessing for Christmas
Dec 24, 2004

First off, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone.

Fotogenetic's goodbye message ( http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=11499905 ) made me look at his recent postings and I was surprised to find out about his new Point and Shoot v4.0 curve, and thought I'd give it a try. This curve is weird in the sense that it remaps the 255 point to 228, and in one his posts, he says that this was done to obtain 1/2 of a stop more Dynamic Range ( http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=11239667 ). Posts by other happy users of this curve also motivated me to give it a try.

Well, I have to say that I personally find this curve to be the best for snapshots - my favourites in the past used to be the White Weddings and Komin curves, but this new one beats them all - again, I have to stress, for snapshot purposes, where people are the main subjects. Actually, I find that it also works pretty well for the majority of the type of shots I take, and it looks like this is the curve that will stay in my camera.

The 3 pictures below were taken during a just-concluded Christmas dinner at my parents' house with this curve and other settings noted in the EXIF info. An SB-800 flash mounted on the camera was used with the Diffusion Dome on and bounced off the white ceiling. I put the SB-800 in AA mode. Other light sources are the multiple cool-white fluorescent lamps which I would characterize as very bright. If the ambient light had been tungsten or some other warm whites, I would have used a different setting such as Auto +3. Images were reduced in size in Photoshop CS, USM 500, 0.2, 0 and faded to Luminosity. Saved at JPEG 9. Comments and questions are welcome.

Hope this helps.

Focal Length: 28mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 22:41:56
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
Bounce
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-S
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
1/15 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Front Curtain
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Auto Flash Mode: Auto Aperture
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G
Sensitivity: ISO 400
Auto Flash Comp: 0 EV

Focal Length: 28mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 23:32:44.8
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
Bounce
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-S
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
1/13 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Front Curtain
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Auto Flash Mode: Auto Aperture
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: Nikkor 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G IF-ED
Sensitivity: ISO 400
Auto Flash Comp: 0 EV

Focal Length: 34mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 23:02:58.7
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-C
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
1/15 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: +0.3 EV
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: Nikkor 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G IF-ED
Sensitivity: ISO 800

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beaucamera
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Merry Christmas to you too
In reply to David Chin, Dec 24, 2004

Hi, David!

Thanks for sharing your Christmas with us. It's fun to see you and your family together. That a really cute one of your and Kellie..under the tree!

P.S. Can one download this curve and use it in Curve Surgery or Raw Magice lite?

David Chin wrote:

First off, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone.

Fotogenetic's goodbye message (

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=11499905 ) made me look at his recent postings and I was surprised to find out about his new Point and Shoot v4.0 curve, and thought I'd give it a try. This curve is weird in the sense that it remaps the 255 point to 228, and in one his posts, he says that this was done to obtain 1/2 of a stop more Dynamic Range ( http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=11239667 ). Posts by other happy users of this curve also motivated me to give it a try.

Well, I have to say that I personally find this curve to be the
best for snapshots - my favourites in the past used to be the White
Weddings and Komin curves, but this new one beats them all - again,
I have to stress, for snapshot purposes, where people are the main
subjects. Actually, I find that it also works pretty well for the
majority of the type of shots I take, and it looks like this is the
curve that will stay in my camera.

The 3 pictures below were taken during a just-concluded Christmas
dinner at my parents' house with this curve and other settings
noted in the EXIF info. An SB-800 flash mounted on the camera was
used with the Diffusion Dome on and bounced off the white ceiling.
I put the SB-800 in AA mode. Other light sources are the multiple
cool-white fluorescent lamps which I would characterize as very
bright. If the ambient light had been tungsten or some other warm
whites, I would have used a different setting such as Auto +3.
Images were reduced in size in Photoshop CS, USM 500, 0.2, 0 and
faded to Luminosity. Saved at JPEG 9. Comments and questions are
welcome.

Hope this helps.

Focal Length: 28mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 22:41:56
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
Bounce
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-S
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
1/15 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Front Curtain
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Auto Flash Mode: Auto Aperture
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G
Sensitivity: ISO 400
Auto Flash Comp: 0 EV

Focal Length: 28mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 23:32:44.8
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
Bounce
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-S
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
1/13 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Front Curtain
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Auto Flash Mode: Auto Aperture
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: Nikkor 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G IF-ED
Sensitivity: ISO 400
Auto Flash Comp: 0 EV

Focal Length: 34mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 23:02:58.7
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-C
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
1/15 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: +0.3 EV
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: Nikkor 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G IF-ED
Sensitivity: ISO 800

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Dennis_Josiah
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Re: Tip: Zero Postprocessing for Christmas
In reply to David Chin, Dec 24, 2004

Awsome shots!

Love the clarity of the first two and the blur of the last --go figure

Merry Christmas,
Dennis
http://www.dchimages.com
"Seeing with the light of the world." Gen 1:4 - Matt 5:14

David Chin wrote:

First off, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone.

Fotogenetic's goodbye message (

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=11499905 ) made me look at his recent postings and I was surprised to find out about his new Point and Shoot v4.0 curve, and thought I'd give it a try. This curve is weird in the sense that it remaps the 255 point to 228, and in one his posts, he says that this was done to obtain 1/2 of a stop more Dynamic Range ( http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=11239667 ). Posts by other happy users of this curve also motivated me to give it a try.

Well, I have to say that I personally find this curve to be the
best for snapshots - my favourites in the past used to be the White
Weddings and Komin curves, but this new one beats them all - again,
I have to stress, for snapshot purposes, where people are the main
subjects. Actually, I find that it also works pretty well for the
majority of the type of shots I take, and it looks like this is the
curve that will stay in my camera.

The 3 pictures below were taken during a just-concluded Christmas
dinner at my parents' house with this curve and other settings
noted in the EXIF info. An SB-800 flash mounted on the camera was
used with the Diffusion Dome on and bounced off the white ceiling.
I put the SB-800 in AA mode. Other light sources are the multiple
cool-white fluorescent lamps which I would characterize as very
bright. If the ambient light had been tungsten or some other warm
whites, I would have used a different setting such as Auto +3.
Images were reduced in size in Photoshop CS, USM 500, 0.2, 0 and
faded to Luminosity. Saved at JPEG 9. Comments and questions are
welcome.

Hope this helps.

Focal Length: 28mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 22:41:56
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
Bounce
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-S
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
1/15 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Front Curtain
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Auto Flash Mode: Auto Aperture
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G
Sensitivity: ISO 400
Auto Flash Comp: 0 EV

Focal Length: 28mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 23:32:44.8
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
Bounce
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-S
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
1/13 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Front Curtain
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Auto Flash Mode: Auto Aperture
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: Nikkor 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G IF-ED
Sensitivity: ISO 400
Auto Flash Comp: 0 EV

Focal Length: 34mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 23:02:58.7
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-C
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
1/15 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: +0.3 EV
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: Nikkor 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G IF-ED
Sensitivity: ISO 800

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In reply to beaucamera, Dec 24, 2004

... yes, I would imagine those programs can handle this curve, no probs - just go to http://fotogenetic.dearingfilm.com/downloads.html and download the zip file containing the curves. It's just like any of the other curves we have come to know and love, examples include Oldskool's and Blake Haber's curves.

Thanks for the kind comments - I trust you're having a splendid Christmas too

beaucamera wrote:

Hi, David!

Thanks for sharing your Christmas with us. It's fun to see you and
your family together. That a really cute one of your and
Kellie..under the tree!

P.S. Can one download this curve and use it in Curve Surgery or
Raw Magice lite?

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In reply to David Chin, Dec 24, 2004

David Chin wrote:

First off, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone.

Fotogenetic's goodbye message (

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=11499905 ) made me look at his recent postings and I was surprised to find out about his new Point and Shoot v4.0 curve, and thought I'd give it a try. This curve is weird in the sense that it remaps the 255 point to 228, and in one his posts, he says that this was done to obtain 1/2 of a stop more Dynamic Range ( http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=11239667 ). Posts by other happy users of this curve also motivated me to give it a try.

Well, I have to say that I personally find this curve to be the
best for snapshots - my favourites in the past used to be the White
Weddings and Komin curves, but this new one beats them all - again,
I have to stress, for snapshot purposes, where people are the main
subjects. Actually, I find that it also works pretty well for the
majority of the type of shots I take, and it looks like this is the
curve that will stay in my camera.

The 3 pictures below were taken during a just-concluded Christmas
dinner at my parents' house with this curve and other settings
noted in the EXIF info. An SB-800 flash mounted on the camera was
used with the Diffusion Dome on and bounced off the white ceiling.
I put the SB-800 in AA mode. Other light sources are the multiple
cool-white fluorescent lamps which I would characterize as very
bright. If the ambient light had been tungsten or some other warm
whites, I would have used a different setting such as Auto +3.
Images were reduced in size in Photoshop CS, USM 500, 0.2, 0 and
faded to Luminosity. Saved at JPEG 9. Comments and questions are
welcome.

Hope this helps.

Focal Length: 28mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 22:41:56
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
Bounce
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-S
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
1/15 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Front Curtain
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Auto Flash Mode: Auto Aperture
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G
Sensitivity: ISO 400
Auto Flash Comp: 0 EV

Focal Length: 28mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 23:32:44.8
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
Bounce
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-S
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
1/13 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Front Curtain
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Auto Flash Mode: Auto Aperture
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: Nikkor 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G IF-ED
Sensitivity: ISO 400
Auto Flash Comp: 0 EV

Focal Length: 34mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 23:02:58.7
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-C
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
1/15 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: +0.3 EV
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: Nikkor 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G IF-ED
Sensitivity: ISO 800

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Re: Tip: Zero Postprocessing for Christmas
In reply to David Chin, Dec 24, 2004

You have a lovely family David.......tho i wouldn't want to be the one doing the cooking as there are a lot of you there!

I've seen this curve used before and it does boost colours for people type shots. I think i may load it.

Happy Christmas
Phil

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David Chin wrote:

The 3 pictures below were taken during a just-concluded Christmas
dinner at my parents' house with this curve and other settings
noted in the EXIF info. An SB-800 flash mounted on the camera was
used with the Diffusion Dome on and bounced off the white ceiling.
I put the SB-800 in AA mode. Other light sources are the multiple
cool-white fluorescent lamps which I would characterize as very
bright. If the ambient light had been tungsten or some other warm
whites, I would have used a different setting such as Auto +3.

Thanks for continuing to share tip(s).

For my taste, I find the first to be a little flat, really like the second. Easily enough changed with post processing, tho', and largely a mater of personal taste.

My somewhat OT query is why you choose not to use the flash in TTL mode. Do you find that the flash meters better than the camera for some reason?
Thanks in advance for any reply provided.

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In reply to David Chin, Dec 24, 2004

Beautiful family David but digital = post

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David Chin wrote:

First off, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone.

Hi David,

Very nice Christmas Photo's and a lovely way to spend the holidays with all your family around you.

Shot 1 made me really laugh, i had this strange picture conjured up in my mind of an 11 legged turkey at your dinner table - one for each adult

Personally i think shot 3 really captures the excitement of the event and that little girl is so cute.

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you and your family.....

regards ....

degsy

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In reply to David Chin, Dec 24, 2004

I am a newbee D70 coming from 35mmfilm Minolta family. I work for a company in Penang and have been there and to KL. One of the guys I have come across has the same name as you but my company is into chemicals via palm trees which there are plenty of by you. Merry Christmas, thanks for the posts, I am slowly learning from you and others. John

David Chin wrote:

First off, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone.

Fotogenetic's goodbye message (

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=11499905 ) made me look at his recent postings and I was surprised to find out about his new Point and Shoot v4.0 curve, and thought I'd give it a try. This curve is weird in the sense that it remaps the 255 point to 228, and in one his posts, he says that this was done to obtain 1/2 of a stop more Dynamic Range ( http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=11239667 ). Posts by other happy users of this curve also motivated me to give it a try.

Well, I have to say that I personally find this curve to be the
best for snapshots - my favourites in the past used to be the White
Weddings and Komin curves, but this new one beats them all - again,
I have to stress, for snapshot purposes, where people are the main
subjects. Actually, I find that it also works pretty well for the
majority of the type of shots I take, and it looks like this is the
curve that will stay in my camera.

The 3 pictures below were taken during a just-concluded Christmas
dinner at my parents' house with this curve and other settings
noted in the EXIF info. An SB-800 flash mounted on the camera was
used with the Diffusion Dome on and bounced off the white ceiling.
I put the SB-800 in AA mode. Other light sources are the multiple
cool-white fluorescent lamps which I would characterize as very
bright. If the ambient light had been tungsten or some other warm
whites, I would have used a different setting such as Auto +3.
Images were reduced in size in Photoshop CS, USM 500, 0.2, 0 and
faded to Luminosity. Saved at JPEG 9. Comments and questions are
welcome.

Hope this helps.

Focal Length: 28mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 22:41:56
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
Bounce
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-S
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
1/15 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Front Curtain
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Auto Flash Mode: Auto Aperture
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G
Sensitivity: ISO 400
Auto Flash Comp: 0 EV

Focal Length: 28mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 23:32:44.8
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
Bounce
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-S
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
1/13 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Front Curtain
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Auto Flash Mode: Auto Aperture
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: Nikkor 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G IF-ED
Sensitivity: ISO 400
Auto Flash Comp: 0 EV

Focal Length: 34mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 23:02:58.7
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-C
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
1/15 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: +0.3 EV
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: Nikkor 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G IF-ED
Sensitivity: ISO 800

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This curve also in my camera, but...
In reply to David Chin, Dec 24, 2004

... I discover something "unusual" with this latest curve by Fotogenetic.

When shoot in NEF with NORMAL curve and open the image in NC. Whenever I choose this curve in NC, the "Color Mode" and "Saturation" changes have no more effect. Just feel strange. This curve seems can overide these two settings and of course, I found no need to change Color Mode and Saturation once this curve is activated because it is a P&S curve.

Have a nice holiday!

-Lai

David Chin wrote:

First off, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone.

Fotogenetic's goodbye message (

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=11499905 ) made me look at his recent postings and I was surprised to find out about his new Point and Shoot v4.0 curve, and thought I'd give it a try. This curve is weird in the sense that it remaps the 255 point to 228, and in one his posts, he says that this was done to obtain 1/2 of a stop more Dynamic Range ( http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=11239667 ). Posts by other happy users of this curve also motivated me to give it a try.

Well, I have to say that I personally find this curve to be the
best for snapshots - my favourites in the past used to be the White
Weddings and Komin curves, but this new one beats them all - again,
I have to stress, for snapshot purposes, where people are the main
subjects. Actually, I find that it also works pretty well for the
majority of the type of shots I take, and it looks like this is the
curve that will stay in my camera.

The 3 pictures below were taken during a just-concluded Christmas
dinner at my parents' house with this curve and other settings
noted in the EXIF info. An SB-800 flash mounted on the camera was
used with the Diffusion Dome on and bounced off the white ceiling.
I put the SB-800 in AA mode. Other light sources are the multiple
cool-white fluorescent lamps which I would characterize as very
bright. If the ambient light had been tungsten or some other warm
whites, I would have used a different setting such as Auto +3.
Images were reduced in size in Photoshop CS, USM 500, 0.2, 0 and
faded to Luminosity. Saved at JPEG 9. Comments and questions are
welcome.

Hope this helps.

Regards, David
(D.7.0. & C.P.4.5.0.0.)
http://www.pbase.com/dlcmh
http://www.pbase.com/dlcmh/dslr_links

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In reply to David Chin, Dec 24, 2004

Happy Holly to you all!

David Chin wrote:
... yes, I would imagine those programs can handle this curve, no
probs - just go to
http://fotogenetic.dearingfilm.com/downloads.html and download the
zip file containing the curves. It's just like any of the other
curves we have come to know and love, examples include Oldskool's
and Blake Haber's curves.

Thanks for the kind comments - I trust you're having a splendid
Christmas too

beaucamera wrote:

Hi, David!

Thanks for sharing your Christmas with us. It's fun to see you and
your family together. That a really cute one of your and
Kellie..under the tree!

P.S. Can one download this curve and use it in Curve Surgery or
Raw Magice lite?

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Re: This curve also in my camera, but...
In reply to G K Lai, Dec 24, 2004

I bought the cam yesterday and am shooting for the moment most in AUTO-mode (and now for testing etc in P-mode).

Because I didn't like the exposure in auto-mode, I downloaded the curve and installed it.
Now I'm wondering if this also works for the AUTO mode?

thanks.
grt,
Alex
Ca

G K Lai wrote:
... I discover something "unusual" with this latest curve by
Fotogenetic.

When shoot in NEF with NORMAL curve and open the image in NC.
Whenever I choose this curve in NC, the "Color Mode" and
"Saturation" changes have no more effect. Just feel strange. This
curve seems can overide these two settings and of course, I found
no need to change Color Mode and Saturation once this curve is
activated because it is a P&S curve.

Have a nice holiday!

-Lai

David Chin wrote:

First off, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone.

Fotogenetic's goodbye message (

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=11499905 ) made me look at his recent postings and I was surprised to find out about his new Point and Shoot v4.0 curve, and thought I'd give it a try. This curve is weird in the sense that it remaps the 255 point to 228, and in one his posts, he says that this was done to obtain 1/2 of a stop more Dynamic Range ( http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=11239667 ). Posts by other happy users of this curve also motivated me to give it a try.

Well, I have to say that I personally find this curve to be the
best for snapshots - my favourites in the past used to be the White
Weddings and Komin curves, but this new one beats them all - again,
I have to stress, for snapshot purposes, where people are the main
subjects. Actually, I find that it also works pretty well for the
majority of the type of shots I take, and it looks like this is the
curve that will stay in my camera.

The 3 pictures below were taken during a just-concluded Christmas
dinner at my parents' house with this curve and other settings
noted in the EXIF info. An SB-800 flash mounted on the camera was
used with the Diffusion Dome on and bounced off the white ceiling.
I put the SB-800 in AA mode. Other light sources are the multiple
cool-white fluorescent lamps which I would characterize as very
bright. If the ambient light had been tungsten or some other warm
whites, I would have used a different setting such as Auto +3.
Images were reduced in size in Photoshop CS, USM 500, 0.2, 0 and
faded to Luminosity. Saved at JPEG 9. Comments and questions are
welcome.

Hope this helps.

Regards, David
(D.7.0. & C.P.4.5.0.0.)
http://www.pbase.com/dlcmh
http://www.pbase.com/dlcmh/dslr_links

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MGlennn
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Merrry.....
In reply to David Chin, Dec 24, 2004

...Christmas to you as well David and THANKS for all your contributions to my photographic education............ :-)) M

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Bill Hall
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Re: Tip: Zero Postprocessing for Christmas
In reply to David Chin, Dec 24, 2004

Nice pictures. Nice family. Thanks for sharing those pictures. Nicely done.

And thanks for sharing the tip. I missed it. I'm using one of his other curves - can't remember which one. I'll check it out.

Merry Christmas

David Chin wrote:

First off, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone.

Fotogenetic's goodbye message (

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=11499905 ) made me look at his recent postings and I was surprised to find out about his new Point and Shoot v4.0 curve, and thought I'd give it a try. This curve is weird in the sense that it remaps the 255 point to 228, and in one his posts, he says that this was done to obtain 1/2 of a stop more Dynamic Range ( http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=11239667 ). Posts by other happy users of this curve also motivated me to give it a try.

Well, I have to say that I personally find this curve to be the
best for snapshots - my favourites in the past used to be the White
Weddings and Komin curves, but this new one beats them all - again,
I have to stress, for snapshot purposes, where people are the main
subjects. Actually, I find that it also works pretty well for the
majority of the type of shots I take, and it looks like this is the
curve that will stay in my camera.

The 3 pictures below were taken during a just-concluded Christmas
dinner at my parents' house with this curve and other settings
noted in the EXIF info. An SB-800 flash mounted on the camera was
used with the Diffusion Dome on and bounced off the white ceiling.
I put the SB-800 in AA mode. Other light sources are the multiple
cool-white fluorescent lamps which I would characterize as very
bright. If the ambient light had been tungsten or some other warm
whites, I would have used a different setting such as Auto +3.
Images were reduced in size in Photoshop CS, USM 500, 0.2, 0 and
faded to Luminosity. Saved at JPEG 9. Comments and questions are
welcome.

Hope this helps.

Focal Length: 28mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 22:41:56
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
Bounce
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-S
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
1/15 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Front Curtain
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Auto Flash Mode: Auto Aperture
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G
Sensitivity: ISO 400
Auto Flash Comp: 0 EV

Focal Length: 28mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 23:32:44.8
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
Bounce
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-S
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
1/13 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Front Curtain
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Auto Flash Mode: Auto Aperture
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: Nikkor 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G IF-ED
Sensitivity: ISO 400
Auto Flash Comp: 0 EV

Focal Length: 34mm
Optimize Image: Custom
Color Mode: Mode IIIa (sRGB)
Noise Reduction: OFF
2004/12/24 23:02:58.7
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto -1
Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
AF Mode: AF-C
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
1/15 sec - F/5.6
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Saturation: Normal
Exposure Comp.: +0.3 EV
Sharpening: Normal
Lens: Nikkor 28-200mm F/3.5-5.6 G IF-ED
Sensitivity: ISO 800

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Cassandra
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Re: Tip: Zero Postprocessing for Christmas
In reply to David Chin, Dec 25, 2004

Merry Christmas David! Very nice family pics -- thanks for sharing. I too have fotogenetic's new p&s curve loaded but not much opportunity to try it out yet.

Cassandra
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AviBen
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Re: This curve also in my camera, but...
In reply to accw, Dec 25, 2004

Custom curves do not work in Auto mode. Use P (or A or S) mode instead.

accw wrote:

I bought the cam yesterday and am shooting for the moment most in
AUTO-mode (and now for testing etc in P-mode).
Because I didn't like the exposure in auto-mode, I downloaded the
curve and installed it.
Now I'm wondering if this also works for the AUTO mode?

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In reply to nowhereatoll, Dec 25, 2004

nowhereatoll wrote:

Happy Holly to you all!
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TQ Dennis! Blurring ...
In reply to Dennis_Josiah, Dec 25, 2004

... human subjects within interesting compositions is still something I'm trying to master.

Dennis_Josiah wrote:

Awsome shots!

Love the clarity of the first two and the blur of the last --go
figure

Merry Christmas,
Dennis
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"Seeing with the light of the world." Gen 1:4 - Matt 5:14

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In reply to vrc, Dec 25, 2004

vrc wrote:
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