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In reply to Mako2011, May 5, 2014

Mako2011 wrote:

qianp2k wrote:

Mako2011 wrote:

qianp2k wrote:

nvlass wrote:

Hans Kruse wrote:

I looked at your photos and although there are a few good ones, I would recommend to you to improve your photography rather than buying new gear. What you have is plentiful for making awesome photos.

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I would be happy if you give me some advice, if you have, than a general improve my photography.

I am learning fast ....


Still believe A7R is a much cheaper solution for your case that you can see DR and resolution improvements right away while still can use EF lenses as seen by Fred Miranda (and by myself).

Remember though, DR really is of little use as you pointed out...

True, in 95% of time I don't need to push shadows and found Canon DR is sufficient. In 5% of photos I see difference. The main difference is still read-noise not DR actually such as in evening sky where I prefer to use A7R. I need more clean shadow than extreme shadow pushing.

Nice to see something emerge from the cocoon. Sony has a tendency to do that and 5% is often much larger (relative) we before it's not an option. Perception often changes with experience

Never deny Sony sensors do noticeably better in 5% of those highly contrast scenes. But most those 5% of highly contrast scenes are not worth to be saved per my perspective rather for demo purposes. Most those boasting we have seen also fall into that demo category that as someone said per sake of extreme shadow pushing not per sake of a real good photo should be taken. I have real interests in taking photos in real world than playing game of extreme shadow pushing.

As I said I found the difference benefits me most from A7R on my needs is not resolution or shadow lifting but much lower read-noise that becomes obvious in evening sky. I'd need to clean sky in 5D3 files (not deal breaker but at least need to spend some time) but not in A7R files after even moderate lifting. ETTR technique works very effectively in daylight photos but not really in evening photos where minority highlights are way more strong than majority darkness. We have seen 6D has already improved in read-noise area than 5D3, and hope 6D II can further improve. I could happily accept future 6D II even it still stays at 12-stop DR but with much cleaner read-noise that really benefits me on my needs.

From this site I see read-noise and DR are not exact the same thing.

qianp2k wrote:

"The only way to leverage 14-stop DR ... is by severe ETTL (expose on left) is by exposing on highlight and then pull deep dark shadows many stops back....But by doing so there are severe consequences...lost details and excessive noise/grain in original shadow areas and possible color tonality damaged. Serious photographers don't do this way.

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