why does the E-M1's video get dissed?

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3dwag
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Re: It shouldn't....but it does
In reply to boxerman, 5 months ago

3dwag wrote:

3dwag wrote:

24P not only for "film-like look" - it's the only way to distribute 1080p on Blu-ray without resorting to some funky scan conversion.

I'm not understanding this. We have been burning 60p BlueRays for years for our travel shows. xxx--snip--xxx

Check here for specs:

Blu-Ray Video

"Many current Blu-ray players and recorders now support 1920×1080 video at the full 60p and 50p progressive format."

To my knowledge, the Blu-ray video standard only supports 720p60, not 1080p60.

I'm suggesting that you might consider updating your knowledge. The Wikipedia entry I marked and quoted said precisely that while 1080 60p is not in the standard, it is available in modern players. Both my current Panasonic Blu-ray and my last one were fine with it. I use Toast software to burn at 1080 60p, and it is happy to do so.

Here's a post that also says 60p works. The following post says the same thing.

1080 60p Blu-Ray Exists

There is confusion, no doubt, but because I've been doing this for years, I tend to believe my own eyes.

The thing I forgot to mention about my workflow is that I must also be able to distribute DVDs (an even bigger concern for me at this time), and the only progressive mode for that is 480p24. The fact is, my current preferred video workflow is 24p, for which I have camcorders.

You are concerned about DVDs and that is just fine and important for you. The question on the table was Blu-Ray.

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The BoxerMan

This is my fault for replying too quickly via my phone whilst running many errands today. My reply was hasty and not explicit about my Blu-ray 1080p60 concerns. I did read your reference, which states

"Officially, progressive scan video can go up to 1920×1080 pixel resolution at 24 frames per second, or up to 59.94 frames per second at a resolution of 1280×720 pixels. Many current Blu-ray players and recorders now support 1920×1080 video at the full 60p and 50p progressive format."

My concern with this is that, as I understand it, 1080p60 is not currently an official standard for Blu-ray. The key word in the reference is that "many" players now support this format, but it does not state that "all" players [currently sold] support it, and certainly not "most" that are currently in use. I'm a gear head and frequently replace such things with "newer/ better", but most folks I know are slow to adopt and only replace their gadgets when broken, or seriously obsolete.

Since I do not even currently own a camera capable of decent 1080p at higher than 24 fps, 1080p60 on Blu-ray becomes a moot point (for me). My camcorders do 1080p24 decently, but my E-M1 (1080p30) does not hold up so well under high detail or motion.

However, I must say that my E-M1 is the best still camera I've ever owned, and the video is passable for those unplanned, spontaneous "video snapshots" on occasion.

Cheers,
Dennis.

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