Anyone disappointed with the FE movement?

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quezra
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Re: Anyone disappointed with the FE movement?
In reply to Ramius, 7 months ago

Ramius wrote:

Its clear that there is no wide angles available at all.

A WA was on Sony's original FE roadmap from day 1.  It is just not in the original 5 lenses announced and they haven't revealed the actual focal length of it yet.

People have been making countless threads about this already. Even though its good Samyang is offering FE lenses, I think its a turnoff for many that these are only reworked DSLR-lenses. And what about pancake wide angles?

Pancakes tend to work best with cameras that have larger registration distances.  Unfortunately, Sony's has a very thin registration so you end up with glass like the 35/2.8 which is probably as small as it gets.  If you want a pancake like the Canon 40/2.8 or Samsung's you need a bigger registration which means your entire body is bigger and heavier.  I'm happy with small bodies and larger (but nice and light) lenses.  Weight is more important than size in FF land because you already need a bag for the camera so why bother trying to squeeze it into point-and-shoot dimensions?

Whats else missing? A better standard zoom for sure, with F2.8 or higher. And more zooms, like a 16-35 or 16-50mm. My collegues in the press is using their 16-35mm more than any other lens.

First you complain Samyang registration distances are too large, making the lenses too big, then you ask for a f2.8 lens that will be even bigger than anything Samyang have come up with.  Try to be consistent in your demands?  Do you want small lenses?  Do you want cheap lenses?  Do you want fast/high IQ lenses?  You don't get all three.

Cheaper alternatives from third party manufacturers is also a must. When Sony/Zeiss is the only one making lenses in the FE range now, we have no choice but to buy the most expensive lenses possible.

Then switch to Canon.  This is a new system, and cheaper lenses aren't going to be available for early adopters.  This happens with all new systems.  You want cheap, go for Canon.  6D + Tamron/Tokina/etc lenses.

A better tele lens is also missing. For most photojournalists using tele lenses, 200mm is too small. There should be 400mm available. And even higher. My collegues do not even consider buying the A7 because of the lack of tele lenses.

This isn't a sports camera, and people who shoot wildlife/sports (tele subjects) a lot wouldn't change to Sony just because they came out with a 400mm lens anyway.  There's a whole lot more to consider than that and it needs a mature system to support such shooting - m4/3 have not one but two 600mm equivalent zooms, but you don't see 'pros' switching to m4/3 for tele do you.

And in this field, brands like Tamron have made exceptionally good tele lenses for a cheap price. That Sony has later copied. Like their 18-200mm. For people like me, the price of the 200mm G-lens will be too expensive to even consider buying. Both Tamron and Sigma has also shown that they can outperform first party primes with much cheaper alternatives while keeping the same quality.

So go get a system that has a lot of Tamron lenses.

Take for instance Tamrons 24-70mm versus Canons 24-70mm: http://learningcameras.com/reviews/7-lenses/104-tamron-24-70-f28-vc-vs-canon-24-70-f4l-is

Sigma and Tamron both have expertise on making lenses in a different way, that more people can afford, without sacrificing quality. Their expertise is currently not represented in the FE market. And that is a weakness I dont think anyone can disagree with. More options and competition the better right?

Yes, but Tamron can design lenses that are used by the vast majority of lenses with one design when they make DSLR lenses and then adapt them to Canon/Nikon/Sony.  They don't get the same economies of scale with FE mount, which is the newest kid on the block and the only mirrorless FF mount.  You do realise the market for Canon/Nikon/Sony DSLR FF may be hundreds of times bigger than FE mount at the moment?

Im just saying they should have been a part of the movement earlier. Now we´re probably going to have to wait a year or more before they release something. Im sure as hell am not going to buy a Touit lens from Zeiss thats more expensive than the camera and currently doesnt even support full frame.

Yes, you have buyers remorse.  Now go sell your A7 and get a superzoom+DSLR that will make you happy.  For cheap.  You are not an early adopter by nature and yet you went and bought into the newest system in the digital photography world.

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