X-T1 jpg quality question

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wyldberi
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Re: X-T1 jpg quality question
In reply to Ed B, 9 months ago

Ed B wrote:

seukel wrote:

This is a question for those who already have the camera. As the X-T1 has the same sensor and jpg engine as the X-E2 and X100s I suppose it is also prone to show those waxy smoothened skin tones, that many disliked. Or does it behave differently?

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I don't own either camera, I have an X-E1 but I wish someone would post some examples, with EXIF data, of this waxy skin tone problem.

I'm not saying anyone is being overly critical, of the new cameras, but find it hard to believe that Fuji JPEGs would have this problem and sometimes wonder if people aren't simply repeating an opinion that isn't shared by the majority.

Seems like any post, where an individual has a problem, turns into a slam about Fuji.

I'd almost bet that if I posted that my camera had a paint chip, there would be 20 people who would chime in and say the paint job on Fuji cameras was inferior to X, Y, Z brand.

Naturally, I could be 100% wrong about the waxy skin issue but I, personally, have never seen a sample, with EXIF data, posted.

I share your impression concerning the lurkers who remain constantly vigilant; poised to jump on any perceived shortcoming the Fuji X Cameras may possess and use that to cast aspersions on the products. It leaves me wondering whether these lurkers may actually receive payment from Fuji's competitors for each such post they make.

I also own an X-E1; got mine one year ago.

I have never encountered this skin tone problem in any of the images I'd taken; and I had never heard anything about the problem until a couple of weeks ago when it appeared in a thread on this forum.

There are pictures that have been posted that show this phenomenon; it's real. I've checked with owners of Fuji X Mount cameras on other forums and they verified the problem exists. These users stated it exists in the X-Pro1, the X-E1, the X-E2, and the X-100s they own and continue to use. I had no reports concerning the older X100.

Quite a few of these persons informed me the problem appears to be a function of the way the EXR processor applies noise reduction to skin tones to the JPEG files it creates WHEN using ISO values that are set to 3200 and above. In order to avoid the problem, I was told to set noise reduction in the camera Menu to < -2 >, and/or don't take portraits of people using an ISO setting above 1600. The other solution, is to shoot portraits using RAW files, since the problem only exists in the JPEG's the cameras produce; not in the RAW files.

I assume the reason I've never encountered this problem on my own is because I tend to use lower ISO settings whenever possible, and I don't try to force my camera to capture images of people that look like they are taken in daylight when they're actually being taken in a darkened room. In such a setting shadows and darkness usually rob flesh tones of the chromatic and luminance values to which the EXR processor apparently applies the offending noise reduction.

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