uh oh, no A7000...?

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Re: re: it is a pretty safe bet = there WILL BE N7 mk-II, and...
In reply to parallaxproblem, 6 months ago

parallaxproblem wrote:

jpr2 wrote:

blue_skies wrote:

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-trusted-sources-no-a7000-aps-c-e-mount-coming-in-2014-main-focus-on-fe-from-now-on/

So we lost Mic input and AF/MF-lock controls?

This can't be real, can it?

...the only question mark is WHEN??

Even SAR says it openly: "I saw a couple of sites claiming the A6000 doesn’t replace the Nex7 and that there may be a new A7000 APS-C model in future with TriNavi. I can confirm via trusted sources that this isn’t true. There will be no A7000 APS-C(!) E-mount camera in 2014. I repeat it, no APS-C A7000 with TriNavi in 2104".

For sure a6k DOESN'T REPLACE the N7, too many reasons to list them here again. So I find it interesting to observe why Andrea of SAR is so adamantly set on repeating the Sony's mantra??

As it seems... they just try to repeat the same marketing trick they did on Oct 20th, 2013 simultaneously killing the Nex name, while releasing A7/A7r, casting a shadow of doubt on the very continuity of Nex'en line, to milk the market with the FF craze.

Now it is to milk the APS-C market by cutting all promise of ever having a top-of-the-line, true APS-C flagship, but of course after the hype and buzz subsides, there will again be a need to release something new - a business as usual in the new season.

And yes, it won't be a huge surprise to see N7 mk-II already announced (to be delivered early in 2015) on Photokina in Cologne mid Sept. 2014

jpr2

I'm really not so sure - by 2015 an FF camera in the $1200 will be a distinct possibility (in fact clearout A7's will probably be selling for that price or less). Will Sony really sell a high-end APS-C and a low-end FF body at the same price? (I know Canon do, but we are talking Sony here)

Well there might be a small (Nex7 like) FF camera for around $1200 launch price. It might have the same features as the Nex 7 (in body, controls and features) and that would made a APS Nex 7 with the same features at (almost) the same price a little bit a strange product. So it is possible that a cheaper version of the Nex 7 (lets say $1000,-- will come out with a better sensor, very fast AF system, very good EVF. Itr will take some time for sony to design all the new parts for that camera...

The very obvious signal of no high-end APS-C body is that Sony will increasingly swap-out APS-C sensors for FF ones down the product range as the costs decrease leaving APS-C only at the very budget-end or not at all

Well the A6000 is just launched and it is not a very budget-end camera. I think APS will be here to stay, it will get cheaper, we will see less very high end cameras in the range anymore. Where the APS range will end? I do not know...

As a marketing tactic I don't think 'scaring people into FF' as you suggest will work... many here simply can't afford to buy the very expensive FE lenses ($800 and greater),

But cheaper lenses can be made too. look at the lenses for DSLRs. You think that the lenses Sony came up with for the FF E-mount cameras will be all in the same class, but that is not true, there will come budget lenses and mid range lenses too, Sony only started this premium camera with premium lenses (as Fuji did and many on this forum praise Fuji for it).

but will think that their current system is pencilled in for discontinuation and so sell-off their current lenses while they have the chance and buy into a more affordable system from another manufacturer

What do you mean here? The A6000 has (when the claims are right) the fastest AF system, Sony put a lotr of effort in this, just for discontinuing the system? Does that makes sense? When you started the Hump affair many said that you should not be to affraid, Sony should not drop the RF stile bodies. You kept on saying that they would. Time proofed you wrong. We can start lengthy discussions about this, you will be proofen wrong again. So you maybe better wait and see what is comming and what not.

Perhaps the discontinuation of the NEX name really meant the start of the discontinuation of APS-C E-mount as some suggested at the time?

So why the very nice update of the Nex 6, with all kind of features. Maybe Sony knows more then you about marketing. Yes it is possible they drop some types of cameras. I do think there is no room for that much cameras as there where. But I think Sony will have a nice price range from very cheap (A3000) to very expensive (A9000?) and both in cameras as in lenses...

Sony need to clear this up by issueing some kind of commitment to high-end APS-C body (no specifics or dates, but just that there will be one) and/or an APS-C lens roadmap. EDIT: I guess they can't commit to a better camera than the A6000 or people will wait for it rather than buying the A6000, but they could still issue an APS-C lens roadmap and maybe state an ongoing commitment to 'enthusiast level' APS-C E-mount bodies into the future

I like the idea of the lens roadmap. They should issue one! maybe it is better to start a campaign for that! The update for the Nex 7 is an other thing, they will not do that, you have seen it with the A6000. You can start your silly campaigns again but it will do no good, it will not change Sony's mind at all. It is better to wait and see. Personaly I think the A6000 is a very good camera, making the Nex 7 a bid obsolete. Yes it may miss some features (in fact the only things missing is tri navi and the AF/AEL togle and a mic in), but the A6000 is the Nex 7 with better AF and WIFI...

Sony's customer management really is terrible leaving us all with current NEX investments to wonder what is happening with their new product range!

No they leave you in that state, most of us are liking the camera they are using and they like what Sony did with the A6000....

I wonder what Zeiss think of all this after spending all that money developing those APS-C Touits?

Well they know more the you and me together....

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