D610 vs. 5D Mark III

Started Nov 10, 2013 | Discussions thread
Robemo
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Just one side of the medal ...
In reply to ron purdy, Nov 12, 2013

Glad you are happy with your new camera.

But a pitty that this thread ended up again in a rather pointless debate about the superiority of one model over another (like a thousand times before. Cognitive dissonance?). Not entirely your fault I guess (or was it on purpose ..?).

The way I see it this is a pointless debate between pixel peepers. Any 'true' photographer (whatever that may be) knows that it's not all about 'scene-referred data' but more about 'output-referred data' and how to get there. That's because 'true photographers' are less self-indulgent pixel peepers and more focused on sharing their images with the rest of the world.

The ways to do that are limited. You do that either in print or on a display (HD, 4K). Both have serious limitations. Even the not yet widely available 4K displays have a low resolution compared to the source material  and common HD displays even less. And the data manipulations that are used in modern displays make, that your source material will likely look quite different than when you are pixel peeping at 100%.

And althought prints have less resolution limitations (also dependent on the print size of course) they have a limited dynamic range (of about 6 stops).

So to get from scene-referred to output-referred needs a lot of processing and compressing. The process of rendering to print (the other side of the medal) is at least as important as getting the right scene-referred data. This has always been the case with photography, be it on film or with digital sensors. That's why the here often mentioned Adams and people like Cartier Bresson were not just great 'picture takers' but also masters in the darkroom. They mastered both processes of getting scene-referred data and of output-referred data. When the process of getting the output-referred data is executed properly, the differences between scene-referred data of different cameras will be evened out. Or in other words, the output (the final print, the complete image on a display) will be the same.

In our photostudio we have a lot of different cameras (different types and different brands). To get a job here you must have mastered both processes mentioned. Anyone here can produce output that looks exactly the same independent of the brand of camera used (within the same type of camera). And I am sure some of the debaters here can do that too.

So this debate is pointless unless some have the strong urge to promote their personal preferences as being a universal truth just to feel good ....

Instead of debating it would be wiser to spend more time mastering both processes

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