New E-mount APS-C bodies will have DSLR shape, like A3000

Started Nov 10, 2013 | Discussions thread
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Re: re: A7's DNA
In reply to EinsteinsGhost, Nov 11, 2013

EinsteinsGhost wrote:

EinsteinsGhost wrote:

EinsteinsGhost wrote:

GXRuser wrote:

well, I am hoping for an A5 with an APS-C sensor in a A7 sized body... much thinner than the a3000 body.

...is neither necessary for a RF-like APS-C E-mount body (both APS-C sensor and EVF can be easily fitted into the small N7 body, and no humps are necessary), nor desirable:

it will only make the whole larger, but nothing will be gained

Which is why I find these ideas about Sony not continuing with RF form as being wild imaginations of a few much less with the frequency we see threads created on the subject.

Do you have any evidence that they will continue the APS-C RF form? It would be nice at this point in the discussion. Do you have any insight into when the long-overdue NEX-7 rangefinder update model, under any name, will finally be introduced? (Even SAR has given up on that one.) Are are you just taking Sony on faith that whatever they do or don't do, it will always be a happy outcome. Are you a BELIEVER?

Look at A7. It combines NEX-7 form with RX1 w/EVF. If you believe Sony were now going for DSLR form, you would see something like A7000 instead.

the only thing I recognize in A7 form which looks like being [partially] of N7's DNA is perhaps its grip. All the rest has the mark of RX-1 pedigree, plus rather unfortunate faux-pentaprism hump. I can recognize a dilemma they had to solve of how to fit EVF and FF sensor into as small form as possible, do for FF this is it and in all probability it is going to stay for further FF cameras' updates as well.

But... there is absolutely no reason to enforce the same form and esp. that ugly bulge also on the N7 mk-ii, which already shown that all components can be packed together into very much smaller & compact body. So... thank you, but I firmly prefer for it to stay that way.

In other words - for me the N7's form represents RF-like style, but A7's doesn't = in is NOT RF-like any longer, alas !!

SAR is a rumor site that posts guess work and bits of info from various sources.

How many of those various sources might be residing outside of the S's realm??NIL if you ask me. But even if there were any, their credibility is NIL as well - this is why you have there designations for grading their sources: from S0 to S5. But actually I do agree with the voices rised here saying that the SAR site is being very smartly and efficiently used by Sony to feed us only the tidbits they want us to hear and see... unofficially !!

jpr2

And I doubt they will. The FF sensor necessitated that, but given how tightly Sony has packed NEX (and now A7) bodies, they seem to be very focused on making it a common design element and with 6/7 bodies being larger than 3/5 to begin with, they have the room. Now it is possible that Sony chooses to go the more compact route of 3/5 bodies then to put EVF, an A7 like hump will become necessary. We saw this in some old rangefinders too.

http://blog.sony.com/2013/10/a7-faq/

Michael Power pointed out that this looked oddly similar to the Minolta 7000.

Yes, we can see the resemblance that you mention and it’s a great nod to such an innovative camera in 1985. There is a bit of a retro design in this camera which was purposeful but the core design is really the concept of creating the Full Frame capabilities you’d expect from a DSLR into the smaller body style of the α7 and α7R.

ie. the A7 pentaprism hump is there because Sony have decided to adopt some element of retro-styling in their new E-mount range. This is incidentally the antithesis of the NEX design concept

The Minolta 7000 was also the camera which destroyed Minolta by rendering them liable to such punative fines for stealing its AF mechanism from a Honeywell patent.  Strange to use it as a design cue

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