How does Fuji compare to Full Frame?

Started Oct 27, 2013 | Discussions thread
Emacs23
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Re: How does Fuji compare to Full Frame?
In reply to 57even, Oct 30, 2013

57even wrote:

forpetessake wrote:

marike6 wrote:

Emacs23 wrote:

Full frame image will likely be:

  1. Will have more than a stop better low light sensitivity (don't forget Fuji claims on better high ISO sensitivity than other APS-Cs are left claims only, once their tricks have been discovered and more advanced denoisers such as Prime from DxO Optics 9 have been released and they are just not available for XTrans). It will likely have better DR and tonality range as well.

Fujifilm's claims are backed up by side-by-side RAW files with other APS-C cameras as RAW files most certainly appear to have less luminance and chroma noise at pretty much every ISO setting (See DPReview's RAW Studio Scene).

People say many things. I bought X-E1 and did some side-by-side shooting, and it's clear that Fuji doesn't really stand out, it's pretty much in the same ballpark as any other camera with APS-C Sony sensor: http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/4489424077/albums/fujifilm-x-e1-vs-sony-nex5n#page=1 Though their unorthodox CFA and processing made certain things in certain situations worse than in cameras with traditional bayer CFA. Bayer CFA in many respects is optimal, Fuji for the sake of avoiding AA filter sacrificed the image quality, no wonder their low end X-A1 actually often looks better than X-E1.

Not from where I am looking. It just has more default sharpening (and NR).

RAW file itself doesn't prove anything before demosaicing, tone curve applying, etc. And their demosaic procedure incorporates denoising, so it can have certain advantage over bayer sensor cameras without NR on demosaicing stage, especially considering Fuji trickery with ISO ratings (for example, Fuji 6400 is rather 4000 of NEXes, Pentaxes, Nikons). The only thing that matters is the peak performance. And, as I said, bayer sensor cameras have advantage here thanks to DxO Prime NR. BTW, higher resolution cameras benefits from this denoising very much due to this NR nature. Just take a look:

Nikon D7100@6400 downsampled to 16Mp

Pentax K-5iis@6400

Fuji XPro-1@6400 NR1

Fuji XPro-1@6400 NR3

Fuji XPro-1@6400 NR5

So, where is the Fuji advantage? And this "comparison" is completely unfair, since Fuji ISO rating is overstated by a large margin

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