An anti-EM1 Thread - Here's why

Started Sep 17, 2013 | Discussions thread
GeorgianBay1939
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Re: An anti-EM1 Thread - Here's why
In reply to s_grins, Sep 18, 2013

s_grins wrote:

Corpy2 wrote:

I love m43. I loved it with the GH2, which I thought was acceptable in terms of image quality and flexibility, but the e-m5 showed me I was wrong. The em-5, however, is acceptable.

It is very acceptable. And so, an anti-EM1 thread, for those m43'ers out there, especially who own an em-5, and are incorrectly salivating at the notices of the impending arrival and beaching of the EM1. Note, this missive is not based on personal experience. It is based on reading lots of reviews.

I love m43, I have GH2. I'm not the best photographer, that is why I do not need the best camera, the best lens, and the best IQ. I'm OK with better ones

BTW, what camera do you shoot now?

1) The image quality, despite a few hyperventilating reviews, is a little bit better. You hear that? A little bit better. It's not a lot better. It seems to be better anywhere from 1/3 to almost 1 stop. There. You can stop pixel peeping ISO 12,000. One splotch looks like another. The em-5 was very usable at ISO 1600. So's the EM1. So big deal. One's a little better. NOT WORTH $1400.

I want to see what best image quality you want. Your gallery is non-exist, and there are no links to outdoor galleries

As I mentioned before, for me M43 is a better camera, and based on my budget I may spend for better body no more than $950. For $1400 I can buy best.

2) It's obvious that this camera was aimed to try to salvage 43. It's not optimized for m43. Reviews conflict on just how much better it will focus, if at all better, for older m43 lenses. If I have 6 m43 lenses (and I have more than that, actually, including the 20mm 1.7, 25mm, 45mm, 75mm, 75-300, etc.) and I think to buy a new m43 camera, I DO NOT REALLY CARE if it works nicely with older 43 lenses (and a few reviews even said that it did not focus 43 lenses as fast as that last generation of 43 (What was that? E5? I dunno--before my time). I want it to focus my older m43 lenses faster, hopefully a lot faster. I have not really seen an excess of reviews telling me this. So, WTF?

Yes, it is obvious that this is an attempt from Oly to support all these e.Zuikos. For many E-volt camera owners PDAF is very important, and they do not care whether you care or not.

3) It's bigger. Oh yes. Oh yes it is. It's not a lot bigger (I mean, it's not a joke like the pigging out that the GH2 went when it turned into a GH3 [for what? Did the reviews say that the GH3 IQ was much better than that of the GH2? I don't remember seeing that]). First Panasonic didn't realize the value of the superb GH2 video, then they paid attention to only that in making the GH3. And the GH3 is much, much bigger than the GH2. Epic fail, folks.
Ok, back to the EM1. It's bigger. Why? If I want a camera approaching a Canon APC camera, I'll buy a Canon APC camera. Or maybe that cute little $800 Canon that takes regular Canon lenses (oh yes, I remember the 70-200f4 IS-- very few m43 lenses approach the IQ of that lens). Fail.

Yes, it is bigger, and I'd like to have GH2 just bigger. I sometimes hit ISO and WB buttons and I want to see 4-way controller to be moved to the left. I do not do video, so I will not comment.

4) Finally, in summation, to paraphrase the Goldwater campaign (Goldwater? Who's that? Bring your grandfather some daisies and ask him) In your heart you know that this is the classical example of an in-between camera. If you own an em-5, hang on to your money for the next iteration of the *small* em6 or whatever. If you own a bunch of 43 lenses, and had given up hope, now's the time not to buy the EM1, but to unload those 43 lenses on the next sucker. This is the prototypical example of the "Pump and dump" so often done in the stock market with tiny companies.

For unknown to me reasons, most entertaining posts about IQ, high ISO, etc. are posted here by persons without history of posting photos. I'm wondering why.

Regards

S.

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Looking for equilibrium...

Well done, Simon!

Don't get sucked in by SHILLS promoting G.A.S.!

And this forum seems to attract those kinds of folks.   For some reason.

Tom

PS I have a nice GH2 and GX1 + a good investment in lenses and am gradually learning how to stretch them (and me) to their limits.

t

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