Sony E 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS PZ (SEL-1650) - Review / Test Report

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Re: Sony E 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS PZ (SEL-1650) - Review / Test Report
In reply to Mel Snyder, 11 months ago

Mel Snyder wrote:

dan801 wrote:

http://www.photozone.de/sony_nex/842-sony1650f3556oss

So looking at these results: I was about to buy myself a new nex camera 5r. The camera seems to be perfect for what I want and seems to be an outstanding sensor compared to say m43 cameras. However now looking at the results of all the latest lens test (I would use this lens quite a bit when travelling) I'm worried about all the issues mentioned in the article. Perhaps I'm better of buying a m43 camera with better kit lens and may still come out on top? At $600 max for a camera and lens kit what do you think I should do? Stick with nex or go to say a panasonic 4/3 camera?

Hello, Dan - and welcome...

Check my recent postings regarding this lens. Don't get me wrong - I deeply respect Photozone. But their testing on an NEX-7 is completely inappropriate. The lens wasn't designed for a 24mp sensor - especially one that has issues with many lenses that work just fine on the 16mp sensors.

I posted countless images on an NEX-6 with this lens, as have others. Dan, despite all the criticisms of this lens, it is truly fine on a 5R, a 6, or just about any other camera. There is no other zoom within your price range that will deliver close to the results of the 5R/16-50PZ.

Ignore the critics unless they are willing to "show you the money images." I've repeatedly challenged all the detractors of this lens to show me images that prove this lens is bad, and NOT ONE has had the guts to back up their charges. Dan, it's just smoke. There's no significant QC issues - there are LOTS of cockpit issues from people who blame their inadequacies on their gear. But you will find people slamming gear on every forum.

There's an easy way to sort this out: When someone says a lens or camera is bad, ask them to show your their proof. Some web site's lens tests prove nothing, unless you plan to shoot lens charts for kicks - especially when the sensor on which it's tested isn't yours.

There are many nice m43 cameras and lenses. But there are just 2 companies (Olympus and Panasonic) supporting this now-aging format, and both are in financial trouble. I could as much make a case for you buying into a m43 as buying a nice Pontiac or Saturn. The NEX system has 67% bigger sensor, a superior crop factor - and the vastly greater superiority of Sony sensors which both Nikon and Canon use in their DSLRs.

Corrections/Additions to your statements:

  • The E-mount (NEX) is supported by only 1 company and Sony is supporting Olympus with money (see below).
  • Micro Four Thirds is old, because it is the first MILC format. Followed by Samsung NX and then Sony. But how does age matter?
  • Micro Four Thirds has a bigger native lens selection than Sony E mount. This is partly due to the longer market presence
  • Canon does not use Sony sensors in their DSLRs! Canon uses their own sensors. Their latest sensor has some featurwise the current Sony sensors lack (until they in turn release their new generation and so on).
  • Nikon is not only using Sony sensors for their DSLRs, they are also using Toshiba sensors for some model(s).
  • Sony supplies Olympus with its Sensors, so the latest Micro Four Thirds cameras (E-M5, E-PL5, E-PM2, E-P5) are using the latest Sony senor technology.
  • Sony and Olympus are working together, which means more Sony sensors for Olympus and Olympus lens technology for Sony (A and probably E mount).

To the original poster:

Don't worry about the things written in this article. If you are looking for a camera there are more important factors:

  • Does the camera feel good in your hand? If it feels not right, you are more likely to leave the camera at home.
  • What lenses do you need in the system you are buying into? Assuming you don't own a mirrorless camera already.
  • Look at (unprocessed) sample images from the camera/lens you want to buy and decide for yourself if you like the presented quality.
  • Try to test the camera at a shop.
  • Sensor quality is only one part of the equation. If you want the best IQ you also need high quality glass. But with kit lenses and one or two generation old cameras (which can be bought used and are cheaper than current models) you can also take great images. It depends mostly on your skill as a photographer not so much on your gear.
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