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Re: Cuba: Mecca for Healthcare (Not)....
In reply to RBFresno, 9 months ago

RBFresno wrote:

Wheatfield wrote:

Cuba has a better health care system than the USA, and is both more honest and less violent than the USA.

Then I have a wish for you: That you experience the same wonderful Healthcare that Cuba has :

Problems within Cuba's health system, including:

  • Low pay of doctors.
  • Poor facilities—buildings in poor state of repair and mostly outdated.
  • Poor provision of equipment.
  • Frequent absence of essential drugs.
  • Concern regarding freedom of choice both for patient and doctor.

Katherine Hirschfeld, an anthropology professor at the University of Oklahoma, did her Ph.D. thesis on the Cuban health system, spending nine months conducting ethnographic work in Cuba in the late 1990s:

-"public criticism of the government is a crime in Cuba",

-"formally eliciting critical narratives about health care would be viewed as a criminal act both for me as a researcher, and for people who spoke openly with me". Nevertheless, she was able to hear from many Cubans, including health professionals,

-"serious complaints about the intrusion of politics into medical treatment and health care decision-making".

-there is no right to privacy in the physician-patient relationship in Cuba

-no patients’ right of informed consent

-no right to refuse treatment

-no right to protest or sue for malpractice".

-In her view medical care in Cuba can be dehumanizing.

-Cuban Ministry of Health (MINSAP) sets statistical targets that are viewed as production quotas.

-The most guarded is infant mortality rate. To illustrate this, Hirschfeld describes a case where a doctor said that if the ultrasound examination revealed "some fetal abnormalities", the woman "would have an abortion", to avoid an increase in the infant mortality rate.

- deliberate manipulation of health statistics, aggressive political intrusion into health care decision-making, criminalizing dissent, and other forms of authoritarian policing of the health sector designed to insure health changes reflect the (often utopian) predictions of Marxist theory".

-"the true extent of these practices was virtually unknown in the West", where "social scientists frequently cited favorable health statistics supplied by [these regimes], without critically looking at the ways these were created and maintained by state power".

-"Cuba’s health indicators are at least in some cases obtained by imposing significant costs on the Cuban population -- costs that Cuban citizens are powerless to articulate or protest, and foreign researchers unable to empirically investigate"

-foreign "health tourists" paying with dollars and senior Communist party officials receive a higher quality of care than Cuban citizens.

-the Cuban Government established mechanisms designed to turn the medical system into a profit-making enterprise. This creates an enormous disparity in the quality of healthcare services between foreigners and Cubans leading to a form of tourist apartheid.

- foreign patients were routinely inadequately or falsely informed about their medical conditions to increase their medical bills or to hide the fact that Cuba often advertises medical services it is unable to provide. Others makes similar claims, also stating that

-Senior Communist party and military officials can access this higher quality system free of charge.

An article in Canadian newspaper National Post, based upon interviews of Cubans, finds that in reality even the most common pharmaceutical items, such as aspirin and antibiotics are conspicuously absent or only available on the black market.

-Surgeons lack basic supplies and must re-use latex gloves. Patients must buy their own sutures on the black market and provide bedsheets and food for extended hospital stays.

A recent ABC-TV 20/20 report on Healthcare, based on footage taken from within the island, criticized Michael Moore's portrayals of the Cuban Healthcare system in the movie Sicko. In that film, Moore took a number of Americans to a hospital in Havana where they bought affordable drugs, and were given treatments for free that they could not afford in America. The report highlights the dilapidated conditions of some hospitals that are accessible to regular Cubans by pointing to the bleak conditions of hospital rooms and the filthy conditions of the facilities. The report also addressed the quality of care available to Cubans by arguing that patient neglect was a common phenomenon. Finally, in discussing the infant mortality rate, the report highlights the government's alleged efforts to promote abortions of potentially infirm fetuses and other alleged government efforts to manipulate the rate.

That's a bit on Cuba's great healthcare.

Care to guess about honesty in Cuba and crime?

Hint: Many Cuban's are so miserable that they'd gladly trade a higher crime rate for more freedom, opportunity, and less misery.

RB

Cuban GDP per capita 6k USD - about 8x less than in US (about 90th in the world), and largely due to US sanctions (such a low level, it would be at least double or better without them).

Cuban life expectancy - 79 years - the same as in the US (about 30th in the world).

So they seem to be doing pretty well, and I am also sure that they do not have the gap between different groups in their country as you have in the US.

http://content.healthaffairs.org/content/31/8/1803

When race and education are combined, the disparity is even more striking. In 2008 white US men and women with 16 years or more of schooling had life expectancies far greater than black Americans with fewer than 12 years of education—14.2 years more for white men than black men, and 10.3 years more for white women than black women

You life prospects depend greatly on where you were born in the US, not so much in Cuba, so at least in that respect they are more equal even though they do not have access to 50k USD of GPD per head on average as you have, but 8x less than that. Amazing, isn't it?

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