New (and better?) Bare Bulb Alternative to Q Flash and Elinchrom Ranger. What do you think?

Started Apr 27, 2013 | Discussions thread
John Deerfield
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Re: New (and better?) Bare Bulb Alternative to Q Flash and Elinchrom Ranger. What do you think?
In reply to UKphotographers, Apr 30, 2013

UKphotographers wrote:

John Deerfield wrote:

If I were starting from scratch today, my TTL system would undoubtably be Nikon flash units.

My 2nd flash system would be based on the power I need. At which point both shoe mount flashes and 400ws Rangers aren't enough!

For somebody who says they don't use TTL - you sure have specific requirements for the system you don't use.

Why do you insist on putting words in my mouth? I never said I didn't use TTL. As a matter of fact, I outlined when I use it.

And where will the Godox appear in your system? It is totally underpowered for your needs and doesn't have TTL at all... But, it's so cheap - you should obviously buy lots - or tell everybody else to buy lots - even if it doesn't fit any of your requirements !!?

I don't know if the Godox will fit in my system. As far as my needs go, they are mine and yours are yours, I have never argued that. That said, I could see where a 300ws flash might make a good addition to my kit at the right price and especially since I already have the battery to power it.

As I said on my first line of this thread "The Godox has some interesting features, but to try and compare it to a Quantum with its capability of Manual, Auto, TTL, remote ratio and an integrated radio system controlling a range of 80Ws-400Ws is only a comparison of the skin and not the substance." So far, nobody is committed to this Godox system because it leaves a gapping hole in photographers requirements plugged only by Speedlights or Speedlites. As such it is restricted and is limited and its masquerade of being a Quantum is let down by its comparative lack of function. Of its interesting features, none have been mentioned - only price.

We have debated this the entire thread. Take TTL out of the equation and there is no advantage to the Quantum system. The 400ws flash is a red herring. A single 400ws unit runs $1500 and that does NOT include the TTL adapters. That leaves the 160ws version... on either a Godox battery or a ridiculously over priced Quantum battery. But no matter what batter you choose or how you slice it, the only advantage to the Quantum will be the TTL and that "feature" runs several hundreds of dollars more. Now if someone needs that feature, then the hundreds of dollars are worth it. For me, it isn't.

Could I manage using only a Manual system? Yes. Would I want to restrict myself in this way? No.

My location system today consists of kits of 80, 160 and 400Ws Quantum's. I have further Lumedynes which supplement this kit when required. They deliver everything I need for a location kit and can be configured to do anything I need to do. I don't need to plug any gaps, and if I was starting from scratch, I'd do exactly the same again because the configuration just works.

All of my lighting is location lighting   I use Nikon flashes when I need TTL (run and gun) and Einsteins everywhere else. If I had to do it all over again, I would do the same thing. I don't need to plug any gaps because my configuration just works. However, if I could change something, I would use Profoto's... even though they don't offer TTL.

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