New (and better?) Bare Bulb Alternative to Q Flash and Elinchrom Ranger. What do you think?

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Re: New (and better?) Bare Bulb Alternative to Q Flash and Elinchrom Ranger. What do you think?
In reply to John Deerfield, Apr 29, 2013

John Deerfield wrote:

The Godox does have a remote control/triggering system? No, it isn't TTL but if you have to have TTL, then Quantum isn't your only choice. Personally, I would rather build a speedlight system for TTL, but that's me. I don't see any problem using flash modifiers developed for the QFLash? There is an entire industry of speedring adapters to accommodate various modifiers on various lights.

'Cheap' is the hook with the Godox. 'Better' is delusion. If - Manual only - rocks your boat and you can be certain that it will fulfil your every requirement in every situation, then you'll be fine. Lumedyne and Norman are Manual only and would be cheaper, but having had those systems and discovered their limitations I chose to use Quantum instead.

I am not sure any of us ever said "better". As a matter of fact, I said the Elinchrom system wins hands down in every category except price. And I think it's a good thing to have choices. If I were starting from scratch today, my TTL system would undoubtably be Nikon flash units. For starters, I love being able to use AA batteries to power my flashes. Yes, I use external power quite often, but in a pinch I don't need a $450 battery pack to power my light (not to mention that $450 SC pack from Quantum only uses 8 AA batteries). With everything self-contained, I can put my flash anywhere I want. And I do, often using a justin clamp. I didn't have that freedom with my QFlahes, the battery had to go somewhere! And before the Godox battery, powering a QFlash was nothing short of a joke (seriously... a $450 battery back that uses 8 AA batteries?). My 2nd flash system would be based on the power I need. At which point both shoe mount flashes and 400ws Rangers aren't enough!

Thread Title:  New (and better?) Bare Bulb Alternative to Q Flash and Elinchrom Ranger. What do you think?

Having used and still use Manual only lighting as well as Speedlights, I find Speedlights underpowered in most situations and find that advocates of Speedlights tend to need to mount multiples together to get a useful output. I find this pointless when theres far better solutions available with appropriate output already provided without the overhead of costs and unnecessary, time consuming, mounting of equipment together. Up to 400Ws in whatever mode works flawlessly with Quantum - one flash head instead of five speedlights (and 20 AA's) - beyond that you are looking at a completely different ballgame and not one which the Godox or Speedlights would ever be part of.

You use Manual AND TTL. Everybody does. So why not just buy a lighting system capable of providing both? Quadras and Rangers don't, neither do Godox. I would advocate that Speedlights are underpowered, one or two are useful but beyond that when you need greater output rather than spend on more multiple underpowered units - just buy something more appropriate with the same function instead. Now that isn't advocating 'cheap' I know.. but having to buy AGAIN because your purchase was inappropriate is just costly. Elinchrom are fine, but faced with a choice of 'with TTL - Or without TTL for the same output' - I'd choose 'with'. I don't know what my next requirement will be for lighting, so having it is a far better insurance policy than not having it at all. My need is to provide images at the demand of whatever the client requires.. if that requires TTL, Auto or Manual (or whatever) then I'm equipped for it.

I use multiple Quantum's with Turbo's, SC's and QPAQ's - I've never had any issues with batteries or mounting them, or even hiding them on shoots and they're dirt cheap to use if you buy Turbo's with their $12 replacement batteries, or $100 Quantum replacements with 'free' swap out internal upgrades.

Upgrades - now theres an issue - what sort of upgrade policy is provided by Godox? Do they provide a free upgrade policy like the T5d-R R3 upgrade done recently by Quantum? Or radio upgrades? From what I see the recent Godox policy was - if the radio system doesn't work properly (Cells II) - 'Give it free to avert complaints.'

So no. The Godox is not better, it's just cheaper, it provides less function and still needs an external battery to power it. For a (not so cheap) light on the end of a stick it ticks the box.

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