Mirrorless- Continuing to Under Perform

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Re: This only matters if .......... Re: Mirrorless- Continuing to Under Perform
In reply to Midwest, Apr 13, 2013

Midwest wrote:

plevyadophy wrote:

 rattymouse wrote:

Thom Hogan wrote about the state of mirrorless camera sales and published the most recent data.

Mirrorless cameras continue to lose ground to SLR cameras.  The rate of increase of mirrorless sales does NOT match that of SLR's.   So not only is mirrorless not on pace to overtake SLR sales, they are in fact LOSING ground.


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9 years of Fujifilm camera usage, ended by rampant fanboyism.

This only matters to anyone if ............ they actually believed mirrorless cams would or wanted mirrorless cams to overtake traditional mirrored SLRs in sales.

If you chose a mirrorless system, or any system for that matter, because it suited you these figures won't matter one jot.

In any event I think it's pretty obvious that in time that most interchangeable lens cams will lose that flip-flop mirror.

It's going to be a long time I suspect before an EVF can match the real-time, zero-lag zero-jitter zero-power-use view of a DSLR's OVF. The day will arrive but I don't see it on the calendar yet.

Yes VERY long before EVFs meet ALL of the criteria you have set but for a great many it won't have to, just as for the majority of DSLR users their cams didn't have to have the breathtaking frame rate of a Canon 1D camera, or weather sealing etc etc

Secondly, this kinda thing is a bit like the days of yesteryear when Olympus introduced the first interchangeable lens SLR with live-view which earned it the ridiculous statement by the founder of this site, in his review, of a being a camera with a feature that was "a solution looking for a problem". Source: Olympus E-330 Review, Conclusion, page 27.

I suspect live view got added to so many cameras so the competitors couldn't say 'we have live view but our competitor doesn't.' The only value it holds for me is that it lets me use the articulated screen to shoot the occasional photo at an angle where I wouldn't be able to see through the viewfinder. Other than that, it's one of the the most dispensable 'features' on my camera.

That's true, but it was also introduced because it's an extremely useful feature. I doubt Canon felt threatened enough that they felt the need to introduce it to have their flagship pro level 1D Mark III DSLR compete with the entry level Olympus E-330.

Back then, I am sure traditionalists would have been gloating that "SLRs with live-view are not on pace to overtake ordinary SLR sales, they are in fact LOSING ground". However, when not long afterwards Canon put live-view in a DSLR, not any old DSLR mind you but their flagship 1D series SLR (introduced in the Canon 1D Mark III), then the writing was pretty much on the wall.

Live view is nice but very much a secondary consideration for most dslr users, I suspect.

Well, I would say your suspicions are wrong. It might be the case for SOME dslr user but I doubt it applies to MOST.

Not if (1) you buy a new lens and want to test it accurately for focus or (2) you wish to manually focus very well doing macro work or (3) you wish to shoot at an odd angle or (4) you wish to use your camera remotely, like many sports shooters do nowadays, and want to see what your camera can see or perhaps (5) you wish to use white balance settings creatively at the time of capture so wish to see the result of white balance changes immediately or perhaps you like shooting (6) the odd video with your DSLR. So there are lots of good uses for live view even for traditionalists (e.g. use of live view for checking focus accuracy).

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