Let's help Jim Malcolm

Started Apr 8, 2013 | Discussions thread
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Re: My take on this ......... again ..
In reply to emem, Apr 10, 2013

emem wrote:

So let me just get this straight in my mind - we have a guy in Romania taking a guy in Australia to task for commenting on the recent public comments of an executive VP of an American company? And I'm sure others (such as myself) contributing to this thread are not in the USA either. Very odd.

Hi Meme,

Nothing odd here unless you have been living under a rock for the last 15 years. What you call "odd" is the new face of  a global and interconnected world. It is called a global community.

I've recently made a couple of posts in similar (full frame/35mm) type of threads and I don't want to fIlog a dead horse but here's my take on this - again.

There are undoubtedly Pentax users who would love a Pentax full frame affordable body but I believe it's a minority. Some want a full frame simply because it's the current "holy grail". I've glibly suggested previously that 90% of Pentax shooters are happy with APS-C. The number just came out of my head and I can't substantiate it, but I feel strongly that I'm right.

If 10% of Pentax users in the world want a FF from Pentax, how many potential sales worldwide are we talking about? Problem with all opinions, including yours and mine is that it is only an opinion. But most of the times we just believe that our opinions are the ultimate truth. Nobody has hard data about market research and market expectations. Probably only Pentax and the other manufactures.

This, as various contributors are at pains to point out from time to time, is a gear forum. It is hardly surprising that quite a large proportion go on about full frame. But honestly, I wonder how many unique contributors there are to this (Pentax SLR Talk) forum in, say, a month? A hundred? Two hundred? Of those how many are looking forward to a full frame purchase in the near future? 10%? 20%? I figure it's not really very many. Our local camera club has well over a hundred members with 80 or so regularly attending meetings (not many Pentax shooters admittedly). Neighbouring suburbs also have very healthy clubs. Enquiries reveal that while many of these camera club members are quite familiar with DPReview, few of them are regular contributors or even particularly regular browsers. And why is this, I've asked myself? My conclusion is that active members of camera clubs are actually photographers. Very few are true gearheads. They're too busy taking and processing and printing and exhibiting their photographs - because they're photographers. Here in this rarified atmosphere of the "gear centric" forum, it is easy to fall into the trap of believing that we represent the majority of Pentax photography people. But we really don't.

Pentaxians are shooting with APS-C mainly because that's what Pentax sells currently to serious enthusiasts. You won't see anybody with a Pentax FF unless Pentax stars selling one. If the K-5 series is such a formidable contender in the APS-C market, we had the hope the Pentax could do the same for the FF market.

In the last 6 or so years I've spent well upwards of $10K on my photography gear. Most of my lenses suit APS-C, not full frame. If I stick with APS-C I can upgrade to a new body and maybe spend a few dollars on a lens for around $2K to $2.5K - if I had to transfer everything to FF I'd need to find $5K to $7K at least. For a relatively slight improvement in IQ, why would I do that?

Please stick with your current gear.  Keep the investment and enjoy it to the maximum. Even more, save some money to buy future releases of the upcoming APS-C bodies. We can only hope they will be outstanding the same way as past models.

So in summary, if you're a professional photographer, a moderately well off photographer or a very committed gear orientated photographer, go for it. But if you stay with your APS-C gear I'm sure you'll be able to turn out images virtually every bit as good and every bit as satisfying as the FF converts.

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Mike M. (emem)
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There is a clear separation between the performance a FF and APS-C cameras. Only professionals and people who use both of them can tell the difference. All the images from APS-c and FF may look the  same to you because  we are all mostly exposed to them through the internet. Believe me, all pictures re-sized at 1024x678 pixels and photo-shopped and edited in LR  and uploaded into Flickr or Pentaxforums or DpReview may look the same. Even images from a tablet or a cell phone may look the same to us!  Does it mean that a cell phone can match the images produced with your  $10K APS-C equipment? Then, dif that's truly the case, don't need to invest that much money. Just simplify your life and buy a Kodak Easyshare MD30 ...

This post reminds me of the discussions we have in our Miata club. A lot of Miata enthusiasts  believe the Miata is a better car than a Porsche Boxster. Yeah, the Miata can be more reliable, as it has a simpler technology and simpler engine. The Miata may be more affordable. Yeah, the Miata also puts  a smile on my face on a sunny afternoon when I  hit the sea-to-sky highway, yeah, the Miata uses less gas... Yeah, the Miata also takes me exactly there where the Porsches go, but I keep telling all of them that a Porsche Boxster is and will be a better car than any current Miata. The only reason I don't own a Porsche is because I am POOR and  I CANNOT AFFORD its high cost of maintenance. i need the money for cameras!

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