*** 5Dc vs 60D resolution test ***

Started Mar 17, 2013 | Discussions thread
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schmegg MOD
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Re: please don't twist my photos
In reply to qianp2k, Apr 1, 2013

qianp2k wrote:

schmegg wrote:

qianp2k wrote:

You ignore DXOMark test,

I've addressed the DxO tests over and over. You are simply not listening.

DxO don't test resolving capabilities of different cameras in a way that allows one to draw conclusions regarding relative resolving abilities of different sized sensors. In fact - they don't test resolution at all. They are testing lenses, not cameras, and they test sharpness, not resolution!

Not true.  You are trying to downplay DXO test to simple sharpness that on your definition is Acutance. You said Acutance always can be achieved thru processing.  But in reality with my own experiences, I have some 5D files show that sharpness that my 60D simply cannot match no matter how to process.  Oversharpening only shows artifacts badly.

DXOMark P-MPix DOES based on MTF resolution.  They used to show in MTF resolution with the same result between 5D and 7D with all lenses.  P-MPix doesn't change any result but merely using an easier understandable expressing unit.

DxO simply do not measure resolution that allows you to use the data the way you are doing it.

It's been explained to you so many times it would be impossible for anyone to have kept track of it.

Are you aware that they normalise the results? Have you looked at the target they use?

Obviously not.

ignore my creditable tests and samples there especially more meaningful outdoor samples,instead you just repeat over and over again and verbally convicted I am "wrong", lol.

No - I didn't "ignore" your test images. In fact, I thanked you for posting  them and addressed them also.

My tests result for outdoor school building clearly show 5D has better IQ and resolves more fine details even with 24-70L II if you leave in their default ways and check side by side.

You are the only person seeing that - almost everyone else sees the opposite. And, perhaps, as some of these other people don't actually own either of these cameras, they are less "emotionally invested" in the subject and are simply judging the images on their merits.

As others have said, they clearly show the 60D has an advantage in resolving abilities.

Who are others from the same few who never own and experience 5D?  No mention your pure resolution is meaningless if you don't care the final IQ.  As I said in reality you'd have to apply more NR and CA correction that effectively will kill some details as vividly shown in your pelican photo.  5D will absolutely take better detail photo in the same scenario by framing into the same AOV.

Why do you keep attempting to move away from the topic - which is resolution.

The 60D images you posted have resolved more detail than the 5D images you posted.

Makes sense because the 60D does actually resolve more detail.

I think you are the only person on these forums that thinks otherwise.

As the link I provided, I heard some who actually own and experience both said otherwise.  Yes it's true I am the only one still arguing the same small group of 7D xxxt. There are used to be a few others who argued with you in last two years but they don't bother anymore.

It's unnecessary to have "owned and experienced both" to see the truth of the matter. Your images allow that.

And once again, why do you keep mentioning the 7D? It has nothing to do with this discussion apart from the fact that it has an 18MP sensor.

The topic was a comparison between the 60D and the 5D.

Why have you not mention the Rebels - they outresolve a 5D too you know!

As someone said earlier in this thread, only "blinds" will pickup 60D photos over 5D ones on outdoor school building that reflects the real world photos  5D photos even with 24-70L II clearly show better IQ and resolves a bit more fine details.  With other inferior lenses 5D leads more.

You seem to misunderstand - I'm not saying the 5D is a bad camera!

It means lots a 8-yr-old FF camera still can take lots of thunders these days  It still can withstand today's DSLRs if you don't print/view in very large size.  Between my 5D and 60D, I'd still pickup former in landscape and portraiture in everyday.

Fine - but that has little to do with resolving abilities - which is the topic on discussion here.

Stop trying to switch the discussion to something else.

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