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Serious doubts on the D7100 at high ISO

Started Mar 25, 2013 | Discussions thread
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In reply to Placation101, Mar 26, 2013

Placation101 wrote:

Again, the AF itself seems fantastic, but i am not a bird shooter, and only from what i am seeing and reading (not based on "my" opinion) i get the feeling that this camera has been designed for something like that, and not so much for the higher ISO performance. I am not saying the performance is bad, is just that the K5IIs seems to be performing better overall and maintaining that cleaner higher ISO quality.

Perhaps that is why some other folks here HAVE mentioned "if" Nikon would have left this camera at 16 or 18MP. Is it not true that Nikon has sacrificed higher ISO quality for sharpness at the lower ISO with this camera? I could be totally wrong, your insight is always helpful and i am just trying to learn more here.

.No its not true you are sacrificing high iso. D800 proves that yes you will get more noise at a pixel level. But when viewed at the same size or downsampled to the same mega pixels you get about the same performance out of the same generation of sensors. The problem is everyone zooms to 100% and is disturbed by the amount of noise. If you do this with a d600 and a d800, the d600 easily beats the d800 in noise. But looking at the same size or postprocessed correctly you obtain very similar results.

When you use dxomark comparing different MP cameras you must use PRINT not SCREEN. the d7100 or d5200 are nowhere near the fx noise wise. Dynamic rangeis close, but actual noise is not at all more than a stop difference.

All that to say that no if they left it at 16 to 18 MP no you would still have the same measurement of a max iso in the 800-1600 level.

Stop looking at a pentax kii and d7100 at 100% each its not the same thing you will find the same iso performance. Yeah if you never plan to postprocess ever stick to 12MP and you will be happy. Otherwise get lightroom and learn the truth that you actually now have noise performance and amazing detail.

Thank you very much Placation101, I stand corrected and things are becoming more clear now. Thanks for all you guy's input on this

The funny thing is that going back to the "noise" or "grain" issue, i was looking at my sister's wedding album that i put together four years ago, all photos taken with the D200, the photos were printed on one of those online photo album companies, and on paper that "grain" actually looks very very nice! Maybe on the computer monitor it might not be so attractive, but on paper it actually looks very lovely, in a way, I can't describe it. Perhaps like many have said, this grain from the D7100 is very fine, so i would think that maybe those images would look evern better on paper.

Maybe this is a good thing and this might be one of the reasons why Nikon has taken this new approach, i am going to SPECULATE that with this "grain" effect the photos will actually look lesssmoother and a little bit less cartoonish, specially people photos

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