Food for thought - FF vs M4/3's cost

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Re: Food for thought - FF vs M4/3's cost
In reply to rrr_hhh, Mar 26, 2013

rrr_hhh wrote:

papillon_65 wrote:

Before I start this is not a "this is better than that" post nor a post about "equivalence". Both formats have their compromises and both do something the other can't, nuff said.

Anyway, due to the current nuclear winter hanging over the UK there has been little opportunity to get out and shoot. This has led me to generally surfing and reading up on various gear and looking at lots of images. Whilst doing this I stumbled on several Canon 5DMk2's for sale on ebay. They were bundled with the 24-105mm F4 L lens and priced at £1699. Now this seemed like an extremely good deal for a well respected, tried and tested full frame camera with a decent lens.

Here the 6D cost more or less exactly the same as the 5D2; it had a better IQ, GPS an WIFI and is even lighter; I don't see why someone would still want to buy a 5D2.

I can get the 5DII about £130 cheaper and it's more than good enough for what I want. The 5DII has an established reputation and also has a higher max shutter speed which I value more than wifi or GPS to be honest. I can see the attraction for the 6D but the 5DII is plenty for me.

I currently use the OMD mainly with the 12-35mm and 7-14mm and comparing the cost of the OMD and just the 12-35mm would take me past £1699. I also looked for a replacement for the 7-14mm and came across the 17-40mm F4 L lens, which is actually quite a bit cheaper than the 7-14mm. So if I wanted a full frame rig to replace my current m4/3's set up I could actually do it cheaper. The caveat being that I'd take a hit on size and weight.
I also looked for some prime lenses for the 5DMk2 and was surprised to find some very nice (and fast) prime lenses such as the 35mm F2, 50mm F1.4 and 100mm F2 which are also very reasonably priced.

Now the 5Dmk2 is getting quite long in the tooth in modern terms and the OMD sensor is pretty close to it in terms of performance, not withstanding the inherent advantage of the larger FF sensor and light gathering etc etc. However, there is not doubt that the Canon will produce IQ that the OMD can't in terms of resolution and shallow depth of field effects, whilst the OMD can do it's stuff a lot lighter and smaller. Those are the obvious differences and the main reasons why I'd choose one over the other anyway.

I guess the point of my post is that if you want to go full frame there has never been a better time to do it. You can also get a Canon 6D plus the 24-105mm for £1829. I make no comment on which is better because that is a purely subjective thing dependent on what you need, but I have to say full frame is very tempting these days if you're happy to keep to shorter focal lengths and wide angle (which I generally do). Having looked at many images from the lenses I mentioned then FF can definitely be cheaper than M4/3's, this came as quite a surprise to me, you can even get a Tamron 28-75mm constant F2.8 zoom for less than £400 (not a bad lens by all accounts and not that big either). Maybe Panasonic and Olympus need to be a bit more aggressive on their pricing as I can see some people being tempted away to full frame.

Anybody else getting tempted? (I'm not really interested if you think it's big and heavy and you've "been there done that",I get the point, I'm more interested if you are tempted over to the dark side by these kind of prices and value.)

I'm very tempted to update my olding 5D1, all the more so that I do already have the lenses (16-32mm, 24-105mm F4, 70-200mm F4, 50mm F1.4 (which is not so great, very soft wide open), a Tamron 90mm macro, Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 (the lightest and smallest in its category and very sharp at that, but a little too short on a FF), plus the 24mm and 90mm TSE. I had the 16-32mm and the 28-75mm on my former APSC body; I would happily trade the 16-32mm for the 17-40mm. Although the 24-105 is an extremely nice lens and does it all most of the time for me.

I'm toying with the idea to sell the 1against plus the 4D against the 6D since I have read the DXO marks results for that sensor.. And since I know tThat it would be lighter than the 5D and ha both wifi and GPS.

I guess that if I was still living in the city where my favorite camera shop is located, I'd already have made this exchange. But I have to plan a day trip to go there now.

The main question is whether I'd use that FF enough to warrant the exchange. On the other side, the 5D body is olding and will soon become as obsolete as my D60 if I don't make the update now.

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rrr_hhh

I guess you have to ask yourself how much you'd miss the extras that a FF camera can give you? I'm glad to hear the 24-105mm is decent, I have seen enough good results from it to believe it will be good enough for me.

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