Time is running out for Samsung, Sony, and other mirrorless camera makers

Started Mar 19, 2013 | Discussions thread
Revenant
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Re: Time is running out for Samsung, Sony, and other mirrorless camera makers
In reply to zxaar, Mar 20, 2013

Sergey Borachev wrote:

zxaar wrote:

Sergey Borachev wrote:

zxaar wrote:

Sergey Borachev wrote:

Care to elaborate?

There are lots of its and bits.

For example "Sony — Lack of NEX lenses is going to hurt them if they're not careful." but Nikon, canon are just fine because apparently they have much more lenses than Sony NEX.

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::> Knowledge is mother of efficiency.

Canikon have a much much bigger following and do not need as much lenses as Sony to get a big enough market share once they start doing something serious. Brand affixation, blind faith or whatever, but that should be not under-estimated, especially given their marketing and distribution strengths.

Bigger following is much more of a reason to worry about lens line up. Somehow the assumption is that if a large number of people are interested in a system they can live with small number of lenses. Which is clearly absurd.

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::> Knowledge is mother of efficiency.

Nobody suggest there is no need for Canon to worry about lens line-up. Thom was pointing out, I think, that by being able to use existing EF lenses, Canon can get started relatively easilyi.

I think quite a few of his points, while made in stronger words than needed to avoid offending some people, are not so absurd, e.g. that Pentax is for all practical purposes out of this game (barring of course any unforseeable events in future). All predictions can only be made based on currently available information and can of course be wrong if the scenario changes after the prediction, e.g. the injection of fund by Sony into Olympus, or something like Pentax or Samsung joining M43, which might then gave those makers an much better mirrorless future!

I am sorry we are not talking about EF lenses we are talking about the lenses for mirrorless. If you researched there are lots of alpha minolta lenses around so if one takes them into account then Sony is not in such a bad shape as he made them out to be. But as I said he was talking about NEX lenses and thus the same should be applied to other manufacturers too. Not doing so could only mean one of the two things (a) he miscalculated or (b) he was hypocrite (deliberately not treating everyone equals)

Read Thom's piece again, and you'll see that we ARE talking about EF (and EF-S) lenses. He's not talking about Canon's mirrorless EOS M camera, but about their new mini-DLSR, EOS B. It has the same lens mount as the rest of Canon's DSLRs. His point is that a lot of people will buy the EOS B instead of a mirrorless camera, since the size advantage of mirrorless is diminished. Add to this the vast arsenal of EF/EF-S lenses already available compared to the mirrorless systems (NEX doesn't take Alpha lenses without an adapter), Canon's marketing resources, and the fact that "DSLR" means quality to many people, and the mirrorless makers have every reason to be worried.

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