SHG/HG VS Zeiss ?

Started Mar 8, 2013 | Questions thread
Jeepit
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Re: SHG/HG VS Zeiss ?
In reply to digidownunder, Mar 10, 2013

digidownunder wrote:

I use both four thirds And Sony systems professionally.Some weeks I think the E5 & 35-100 F2 is an unbeatable combination,next week I consider selling everything else except sony system.Its a very tough choice with no clear winner.I have recently purchased the A77 with matching 16-50 2.8 lens due to its outstanding value for money at the moments.

Great value I agree.

Its more fun to use than the e5 and makes a better family/travel all roundcamera.Low light ability is no better than E5 though.

Did not know about the low light info, though I have read that some people who post on the Sony forum discuss to much noise at higher ISO's.

I wouldnt use this camera with the Zeiss 24-70 which i own,too big,heavy & cumbersome for general use,professional use for me only .Quality wise the Zeiss compared to the olm 12-60 is a tough call.the Zeiss can have that extra special color,3D rendering and biting sharpness but It can also look harsh & hard sometimes and isnt particularly sharp wide open & in corners.12-60 is sharp at any apeture and any condition,less contrasty than zeiss but more subtle in tone with better shadow details in dark tones.

Yes I have noticed better detail in the shadows since shooting with the 12-60mm, much better than the 18-180mm.

I have lots of other legacy Zeiss glass & olympus HG and my general feeling between the two is that I cannot decide which i prefer.Zeiss generally excells with 3D pop & color & biting SHARPNESS at optimal apetures.I guess Zeiss does at times give you a bit more of a unique look,however that look sometimes doesnt always work for the better.Images can sometimes be just too contrasty & harsh.You may see some purple fringing with certain Zeiss lenses,something Ive never seen with olympus digital lenses Ive used.

Theparagraph above is exactly the type of info I need.

Olympus lenses are more usuable at any apeture,dust & moisture sealed and smaller than equivalent Zeiss,more subtle rendering,sharp over entire frame,more subtle and delicate color & IMO better value for money.If you do get the A77 without the 16-50 2.8 which I can reccomend,consider the Zeiss 16-80,much more portable,affordable and focal length better matched toAPSC sensor.If you loved

i do.

& used the live view on your 330,I also own that camera,you wont be too impressed with live on the E5,a step backward.Sonys A 77 live view is the best around.

on the market currently?

Bottom line ,I wouldnt buy an E5 for personal use as I just think its too big & complicated as a general use camera,as a professional tool I love it though.ITs replacement might change all that though.If your buying a camera purley for photography only assignments and not an everyday camera,then the E 5 to use with your 12-60 makes alot of sense.

Personal use too start with, but I would like to enter the professional area at some point.  So I'm also trying to think 12-18 months ahead as we'll (make sense)?

I do love the 12-60mm on my E330 but, it being  9 yr old camera it does have it limitations...hence wanting to upgrade to newer technology.

I wouldnt choose any sony & Zeiss combo over this unless you want everyday use/portability in which case I would go for A77 & 16-50 2.8 combo,that comb can be had for$1200.00 at the moment,hope this helps,cheers.

Thanks your reply helps a tremendous amount.  This is exactly the type of info I was looking for.  I wanted to have someone who has used these two specific cameras with the AF lenses.  I was looking for personal experience information to compare Zeiss AF lenses to Oly SHG/HG lenses , and some personal experience with the A77.

I'm not interested in the E5 due to the old technology sensor.  If I'm going to spend a thousand + dollars on a new camera, I want it to have the most up to date technology in it.  That's why I placed the A77/78 in my post...with a nod to the future A78 & E7 that supposedly will be coming out in Aug-Sept.

I'm not interested in the OMD E-5 because the size of the camera is too small (even with the optional grip on it) and the m4/3 lens selection leaves a lot less to be desired.  If Oly comes out with a hybrid 4/3-m4/3 camera and it is in between the size of E5  & the OMD E5, then I will seriously look at this camera; as long the 4/3 AF issues are resolved with the micro side of the camera.

I would like to pm you or you pm me so I can pick your professional photography brain for more pro suggestions/ comments.

Thanks for your input/assistance so far.

Rick

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Olympus E-330 Olympus E-M1 Olympus Zuiko Digital ED 12-60mm 1:2.8-4.0 SWD Olympus Zuiko Digital ED 18-180mm 1:3.5-6.3 Olympus Zuiko Digital ED 50-200mm 1:2.8-3.5 SWD +7 more
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