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Oh, so much to learn
In reply to brightcolours,
3 months ago
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brightcolours wrote:
Slideshow Bob wrote:
Here you go...

... that's 14 stops right there. It's not a good photo (just the view from my office), but it COULD have been, given a better subject and similar lighting conditions. Explain to me how an 11 stop camera would have done it better.
Why do you say that is 14 stops? That is less that 9 stops. And yet still it looks drab and contrastless, how come there are no blacks, just a bunch or muddy dark tones all bunched up together? It is a badly chosen scene that will look crappy with any camera anyhow. And low sun sets are NOT a DR challenge at all.
Anyhow... Lifting shadows is something odd, only on forums you see talk about it and only by spec sheet lovers... Real photographers care about the light, and about contrast, and about shadows. The DR hype is... indeed mostly a hype.
You see,it has absolutely nothing to do about lifting shadows. This seems to be the primary excuse for people trying to make claims that the extra DR is of no use. Some even resort to nonsensical terms like"shadow DR"... something that further reinforces a complete lack of understanding of light and range.
When measuring a subject's SBR to figure out how to place the image tonal range, with digital, unlike neg film, one exposes for the highlights. In a scene with an SBR of 12, 14 or more stops, to maintain the highlights, one may expose 2, 3, or even 4 stops or more below standard. In doing so, the highlights are maintained. However, the midtones that would have been around zone 4 or 5 are now down around zone 2. In order to bring them back to zone 5, these tones need to be moved from where they got placed back to midtone. While doing so, the shadows need to remain compressed to keep a natural appearance.
Having a camera that can maintain the integrity of the signal is important....otherwise, your midtones will become muddy, noisy and could even exhibit banding after being moved back. This is what this is all about. It has nothing to do with lifting shadows. Even a basic understanding of what goes on in the darkroom/lightroom should negate this entire discussion. The fact that it goes on and on shows that there is a lot of misinformation and a general lack of knowledge present here.
One other thing....if the tables were reversed, and the Canon body had more rez and DR, the Canon forums would be rife with discussion about how the extra Dr is invaluable, and how the larger files are not a problem.
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