D7100 1.3x crop in sensor vs Crop in Software?

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nfpotter
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In reply to Mako2011, 3 months ago

Mako2011 wrote:

nfpotter wrote:

Mako2011 wrote:

nfpotter wrote:

Mako2011 wrote:

I understand...I shot RAW so that I can keep more. Some also shoot 14bit for the same reason. Rather than use crop mode...just install a DK-5 Eyepiece Cap Viewfinder Cover with 80% cut out of the middle

It simply makes composing to fill the frame (in some cases) automatically use the pixels closer to the center of the lens, so composing "on the fly" is easier.

I do see the point. Wasn't easy for me to figure out though.

For a lot of people, this wouldn't matter, as their subject matter may not require cropping much. But for a wildlife shooter (or anyone shooting small, distant subjects), it most certainly could make a difference!

I don't think so as you can simply compose for crop...but I do certainly see how it could have that advantage for some. Sorry to be a bother...took me a bit to understand.

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You're never a bother, Mako, and I thank you for helping me make my point a bit more clear, perhaps!

A thought. Using crop mode as you describe above for framing advantage... 600mm lens taking pics of swallow in the distance. You take the pic normal then wouldn't you have to back up to reframe in crop mode?

No. As you've pointed out, it's the same bunch of pixels. Just closer to the sharp point.

But you frame different depending on the mode...so with the 600mm prime in normal mode you said you would frame the subject to use the whole frame ("...composing to fill the frame...") and you would do the same in crop mode to maintain say the 3rds rule. That would mean you need to back up when shooting that sparrow in crop mode with the prime or zoom out when using a zoom.

nfpotter wrote:
However, in the real world, most people (at least ones that think about composition) are going to frame based on things like the "rule of thirds", or "golden mean". SO, if I do that in full resolution, and I crop to a 15 MP image, I MAY be using pixels further away from center, than if I had used the same framing/composition already in crop mode. Both end up being a 15 MP image, but the latter used more pixels closer to the center of the lens, and thus a potentially sharper image, given the same composition.

Dear lord, you need to get out and shoot more.

What I'm saying is quite simple.  If you don't need the full frame to compose your shot, you'll be better off using the center of your lens.

I don't frame depending on anything except the moment.  It wouldn't mean I need to back up or move forward.  As you clearly stated, it's the same amount of information fed to the camera.

This is where the "I'm putting more pixels on the subject" comes in.  I'm not.  I'm just using a better part of my lens, potentially.

Never mind, I'm at a loss as to why this is a hard concept to understand, so I shall bow out, at this point.

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