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Re: Used 5DM1 vs 50D
In reply to qianp2k,
3 months ago
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qianp2k wrote:
Sovern wrote:
Also with crop body your lenses become longer. On crop the $360 85 1.8 becomes a 135mm lens and the distance perspective of 135mm is very flattering.......to get the same distance compression out of a 5Dc you would have to buy the $1,000 135F2L and you'd be pushing your luck relying on the outer points with the 5Dc shooting with such a narrow DOF.
Crop can go as wide as FF with the wide lenses but you can a lot longer with a lot less money.
You need to experience FF really to understand the difference. You either cannot see or don't want to see. We went thru this before. Portraiture is one of areas I see FF advantage clearly as I cannot sustain noticeble grains on faces/skins from my 60D photos that I have to apply NR.
Check DXOMark sharpness and Resolution | FieldMap, you can see the same 85/1.8 lens on 5Dc or 135L/2.0 lens (that is a different class lens from 85/1.8) on 5Dc clearly beats 7D with 85/1.8. Those fast-aperture lenses on 5D also give welcome shallower DOF and better background blur in portrait photos.
DXOMark 5D vs 7D with 85/1.8 and 135L
However I agree that if you can afford 5D2, 6D and 5D3 get one of them as they have (much) needed new features to help you to take photos easier - more pixels, better LCD, less dust cleaning, higher ISO options and LiveView (LV) or if you need video.
I don't see any difference between pixel pepped FF and crop body portrait shots. I've compared the two already......I have not seen a grain in any of my portraiture shots with my 40D yet I have seen 5Dmkii shots that have grain on the face done in the studio. (He used a high iso for some reason)
Bottomline is it comes down to PP technique as you will almost always want to apply some skin softenening effect as modern DSLR's pick up so much detail where if you don't do some skin softening imperfections such as pores easily show up.
Also I don;t go off of DXO mark I go off of real world results. Real world results tell me that the 85 1.8 is only 85mm on FF and does not give me the 135 distance perpsective that it does on crop body which is very flattering.
Shallower Depth Of Field is also easy to fix if you want more of it without going FF as all that you have to do is move your subject further away from the background if you shoot primary outdoor portraiture like me.
85 1.8 is perfect on crop body in my opinion. No need for a 135F2 unless you want super distance compression.
Personally I wouldn't even get the 50D. I'd save the $200 and get a used 40D. 10MP is all that you need for any portraiture work really. You can probably even get away with 6MP on an older 30D body.
60D trumps the 50D by a good amount and is only around $100-$200 more expensive than 50D which is I don't suggest 50D. I also don't suggest 5Dc because it has a terrible AF system and it's high iso ability's are not good at all.
I have the ability to get the 5Dc at any point in time bur I'd rather have 40D because it's AF system feels just so damn good and because my lenses are longer (I'm more of a long shooter).
I don't need to use recompose technique anymore and worry about my photos being OOF. I can lock on focus instantly from any focus point. I don't think that I can use a body with an inferior AF system ever again after being spoiled with this AF system.
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