Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 Auto Focus

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mfj197
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Re: Slower, but not slow
In reply to Anders W, 3 months ago

Anders W wrote:

mfj197 wrote:

The key point I was making is that using the 20mm the E-M5 does not achieve focus lock in dim light quite as well as the G3 (see post earlier in the thread). Unless you have access to the two different bodies you won't be able to carry out the test.

No. The key point is your claim that the 20 has more difficulties to lock focus on the E-M5 than the 45. You said that you had tested that and I offered to repeat the test.

As I have already pointed out, different bodies may well differ in their ability to lock focus on a certain target under certain light conditions. But this may have nothing to do with the lens used. In order to test whether it does, you need to vary the lens while keeping the camera constant.

What you said in the post to which I responded was:

I have seen exactly the same as I mentioned above - the G3 achieved focus lock with the 20mm in conditions which the E-M5 doesn't. When I switched to the Oly 45 in the same dim conditions (a marginally slower lens aperturewise) the E-M5 had absolutely no problems locking focus.

In other words, you claim to have obtained the following set of results:

E-M5 and 20: bad

E-M5 and 45: good

G3 and 20: good

G3 and 45: good

You need all four observations to draw the conclusions you draw. I am ready to accept the last pair of observations, which seem credible to me. However, I would like to repeat your test of the first two observations before I accept them. So could you please supply the information I need for that purpose as spelled out in the section of my previous post that you quote above.

Anders, please don't tell me what my key point was.  If you look further back in the thread, to my first post, you will see I say (referring to the 20mm):

Interestingly in low light the E-M5 hunts more with this lens than my old Panasonic G3 did. I was shooting an evening event at church a couple of weeks ago and the E-M5 struggled to secure focus lock, whereas the G3 had no problems at all.

No more, no less.  Now I believe your key point of interest / contention is what you say mine should be, namely that "the 20 has more difficulties to lock focus on the E-M5 than the 45".  I was comparing the bodies in my original post, not lenses, and you only need the two bodies and the 20 for that.  Subsequently you bought other lenses into the discussion in your later post and that was why I made the comparison you quote above, but that is not my key point.

Anyway, if you wish to repeat the tests with the E-M5 then the situation was this:

  • Venue: Interior of church building, stone, carpeted
  • Time: After dark
  • Lighting: Mixture of spotlights, coloured lights and dim background light from a projector
  • Target: I found the biggest problem with the E-M5 was focussing on brightly coloured beanbags!
  • E-M5 focus settings: S-AF, tried with both standard focus point and 14x reduced focus point.  I also tried with the art-line focus peaking and MF to see if I could do any better.

Here's a sample!  By the way, the 20mm is still good at focussing in low light on the E-M5, just not quite as good as with the G3.  The low-light abilities of the sensor and the astonishing IBIS far outweigh the difficulties though!

Michael

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