Are pancake primes extinct ?

liviutza wrote:

I believe the 14mm (which I do not own but have tried) proves reasonable AF can be achieved. Of course the 14mm has a much shorter focus throw and smaller elements, so I can see longer pancakes having slightly lower AF speed, but not much slower compared to non-pancake lenses of similar focal length and focus throw. Pancakes are a compromise designed to reduce size and I for one accept reasonable disadvantages in other areas if IQ and convenience are good enough for my standards.