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Aleo Veuliah
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Re: The search.
In reply to Detail Man, Feb 10, 2013

Detail Man wrote:

Aleo Veuliah wrote:

enrique santa wrote:

Hi Aleo. Im begining to be old here fisrt at 2006 i n 4/3 forum and now at this m 4/3. I usually post very little because I prefer to read and learn of some of the very vood photographers that usually post here but I spend hours joi ning this forums. Actually we are more members and there are a lot of people asking for questkons answered here a thousend times. Perhaps it would be usefull to remind all this people the search option this forum have.
Thank you very much for your time and effort here
Best greetings
Enrique

Hi Enrique,

I agree, questions and answers repeat often. Dpreview advertise for the users to make a search first but almost no one cares. Me and the other moderator Jalywol already have warned and deleted or locked threads like that. It even happens that some users post the same threads again because they don't have got reply's. We are going to try do better on this kind of issue, But it is not easy, and with the increased number of new Micro 4/3 users things sometimes get a bit out of control, because we can not stay here 24 hours.

I have found it to be true (on the Panasonic Compact Camera Talk Forum, as well as on this forum) that (quite likely) very few posters who ask questions invest the time and energy to try to search previous threads and posts on the same subject.

It is true, and many don't even bother to reply to it's own thread.

It is (perhaps) human nature to prefer to ask the same old question(s) without prior research, and hope that others (who may have provided the same answers over and over) will come forth and make the effort themselves to revisit previously discusssed questons and issues.

That human nature has increased with the internet I noticed that a long time ago on boards chat's and forums. It is a lazy thing.

That seems to be an (essentially) innocent (and not a deliberately executed) practice however, and it does not seem (to me) to warrant deletion of posts or threads on that basis alone.

Yes, most of the times it is not deliberated.

On the other hand, people who post questions may have concerns that older related threads have since become soemwhat outdated - and this can be (and sometimes is indeed) the case.

Further, (IMO), DPReview's site-internal search-system (either the old implementation or the newer implementation) is woefully inadequate in it's operational functionality - to the point of being virtually unusable (where I am concerned). This came up yesterday in the following discussion:

tomhongkong wrote:

I don't know if this is the right forum to post this on, but hope the mods will leave it or someone take note.

I recently took an old panasonic FZ35 out of my drawer to give to my son, and was looking for general views on it and setting advice. The current forum search engine is fairly useless. If I enter 'FZ35' the posts recovered range from 2003 to 2013, I think it is selecting on FZ and ignoring the 35 part of the search argument. It seems impossible to find a key which will direct me to FZ35, without going through thousands of posts.

As an alternative way of getting to relevant posts, with the old forum set up, I could go to pages directly by number, so what I would have done is approximate to get to about September 2009, and look at posts from then onwards. That feature has gone, I can step back two pages at a time to previous posts, but it is tedious in the extreme in a forum with many pages.

Am I missing an easy way of either getting to FZ35, or to posts at about thetime it was introduced

thanks for ideas

tom

I find that Google works much better. Use a search-string like this ("OR" must be capitalized):

site:dpreview.com FZ35 OR DMC-FZ35

Google shows 23,100 "hits". The bulk of the posts by members will be on the (now named) Panasonic Compact Camera Talk (which was at the time named the Panasonic Talk Forum).

That is correct, Google works better if we do the search well and use the Dpreview name. Dpreview still needs to improve the search engine, and I think they are still working on that, it is a big site with lot's of information the search engine must be good, but they have so many things to do that it will take some time to have a better search, but Google will always work better I think, after all they are the specialists (and not only on that) on searching over the web.


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