Voting Rules

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Re: Voting Rules
In reply to Tim A2, Feb 8, 2013

Tim A2 wrote:

OldArrow wrote:

Tim A2 wrote:

OldArrow wrote:

Good example. The image title can further influence the way someone will look at the photo.

Although the best message comes from an image with needs no title, sometimes the message resides in the image - title combination, which shifts the meaning toward what the author was trying to convey.

I was once told that the good picture is the one that can carry a title of a single word. It pretty well explains it all.

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Fil

And likewise, rightly or wrongly, a challenge theme can influence the way someone looks at a photo. If the theme is stone bridges and the voter sees a photo of a magnificent waterfall that happens to have a stone bridge in it, she or he might think "this is not a story about a stone bridge, at all. It is a story about that waterfall. Therefore it does not qualify for this challenge even though the title does says Stone Bridge."

Tim

Er, nope. Unless otherwise or more precisely specified, the stone bridge presence qualifies an image in that challenge, even if the image title is "Waterfall".

Only the absence of a bridge, or if it is built from non-stone material, or if it isn't definable as a bridge, will then disqualify an entry - even if the title says "Stonebridge Waterfall".

The difference will be "in the eye of the beholder".

If author succeeded in making the bridge prominent enough (by, say, placing it at the proper place in the cadre), so that the natural story of the picture draws the eye to that element, people will perceive the beauty, logic and sense of the stone structure.

If the bridge is merely present anywhere in the image, and lets the waterfall appear as its main object of interest, some might decide that the image is not highlighting the required theme sufficiently, and perhaps rate it a tad lower... but the image will conform with the challenge rules, whatever the vote values.

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Like I said "rightly or wrongly". Some say rightly and you say wrongly. Myself I am just saying why some voters award 0.5 votes to photos that in their mind do not qualify for meeting the theme. Some would probably say it is a beautiful scene that happens to contain a stone bridge and vote it down. That is a legitimate vote and is not sandbagging. To their way of thinking, the photo did not qualify and should not have been entered.

Tim

If the entry complies, it can only be judged by the quality of its expressiveness, and that's where the story is (or isn't, depending upon various things). As to how well that story was presented, that's for the voters to judge.

If the entry does not comply... that's entirely within the host's responsibility. Such an entry should not ride so far as to reach the voting phase of the challenge. Entries that do not comply have to be DQ'd, so they do not run with the challenge-compliant entries.

Now if a non-compliant entry has been left in the run, the viewers should warn the host (via Complaint feature) that such an image lacks a, b, c, or whatever element the challenge has required. The host should then go see that entry, and either remove it (by DQing) or let it run, if there are solid and defendable reasons for that decision.

In the case of an obviously non-compliant entry and/or a host who does not control their challenge, or simply does not care, the current system recommends that it be voted low. However, since the entry is non-compliant, the very voting upon it makes it legitimate, and that entry gets to be ranked - along with the other compliant entries.

As I have explained elsewhere, this creates a lot of confusion.

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