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Re: D800 worse that I had hoped for :(
In reply to msusic,
3 months ago
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I probably shouldn't answer your post at all, but here goes.
msusic wrote:
Recently, I got D800 as a replacement to my Olympus 43 and m43 gear. Friend also switched since we're doing weddings together (from 5D2).
We got D800 and plan to get D600 as a second body, but I'm quite disapointed in D800 regarding few things.
True, resolution in good light is really good and as a landscape camera it's great.
However, first I noticed problems taking portraits.
First, AF in lower light is hard to rely on as it has tendency to miss on different distances.
Second, it's hard to get sharp images with 85mm 1.8G with shutter speeds under 1/160s.
Use 1/2 X focal length for hand-held shutter speeds. This sensor shows up every little bit of careless technique in either focus or movement stabilization, as you realize in your next sentence.
Going by old shutter speed rules, it would be sufficient to have 1/80-1/100s, but of course due to higher resolution, D800 is much more sensitive to shake or subject movement.
This, along with very shallow DoF sometimes means I have to use high ISO often to get sufficient shutter speed and DoF.
While D800's high ISO is quite good, it decreases it's quality and nullifies it's resolution advantage.
One of the strengths of the D800/E is its great high ISO performance. You shouldn't have a problem with too much noise up to around 6400 ISO. LR or PS can remove such noise with only a slight -if any - loss in edge contrast sharpness. If you really want to push the ISO upper limits on this camera, then use a noise reduction plug-in. I use NIK Dfine 2.0 and can remove even very high noise levels with no perceptible edge sharpness or detail softening. This way you won't have to shoot wide-open and reduce your DOF. The only caveat here is that higher ISO settings will reduce your dynamic range.
In comparison, I used to have Olympus OMD with 45mm 1.8 lens and in lower light if subject posed I could easily use f1.8 and 1/30-1/40s or lower to get sharp results, but with D800, I have to use 1/160s and probably f2.8 to tame DoF and remove excessive CA in OOF areas.
This means I have to use at least 2-3x stops higher ISO at which point D800 gives worse image quality than the OMD at much higher price and size.
If subject is blurry, all those pixels won't do much good. Resizing won't help either.
Is it true that D800 only makes sense for landscape photographers and those who use it mostly in either good light or on a tripood?
This is completely untrue. I shoot everything in all kinds of light and have no blur problems. I've shot hand-held using a 70-200 with a 2X extender (400-mm) with tack-sharp results, so I can't see your complaint regarding blurry shots as being valid.
Of course if you're just not accustomed to shooting with 36-MP, and don't bother to learn the idiosyncrasies of such an instrument, your bound to think there's something wrong.
Also, sometimes the card write light stays lit and I can't preview the image until it stops (which can take a 30s or more), despite very fast CF card in the camera.
This is just silly. Obviously you're using a CF card that's too slow. I use Lexor 32-GB 400X cards and never experience the delays you're describing. And that's not even close to the fastest cards available today.
I have no idea what to do to fix this issue, except selling it off...
I agree, you probably should sell your D800. Then someone else willing to spend the time learning this fine camera will be able to enjoy it.
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Cheers, Marin
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