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Not the subject of the thread (Taking a step back)
In reply to Bernie Ess,
4 months ago
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Bernie Ess wrote:
liquid stereo wrote:
What you see is that the X-Pro1 is superior to all three cameras. Superior how? More signal (detail) and less noise. The Nikon is a little better in the green foliage area but that's about it.Ok. People need to look less at other people's test shots and look more for themselves. I have the X-E1 since 3 weeks or so (1500 shots roughly) and have been using the 5d II since 2009, and had the d700 for a year or so.
The Fuji is the best crop camera I have used in many respects, and has the wonderful colour palette I only find in Fuji cameras. However in everyday real life shooting, I have seen noise at ISO1600 that doesn't look like FF supremacy at all, when using DR expanded to 400% strong noise can occur as low as ISO800, and it doesn't look too good.
But FF has more to it than just ISO noise. There is the smoothness and "effortless" look of a file, and this is where the 5dII with a good lens smokes the Fuji.There is just more detail in the 5dII shots, and the detail that is there just looks better. Less processed, with more authority.
Sure, in prints of normal size much of that as described above may or may not show up, but it is there, and overly optimistic views rarely help anybody for longer than a camera honeymoon.
Just by the way, in terms of smoothness of the highlight rolloff and real life DR up to ISO800, the best cameras still around are the Fuji S3pro and S5pro. The X-E1 cannot reach this DR, specially in the highlights.
Bernie
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'All the technique in the world doesn’t compensate for the inability to notice.' (Elliot Erwitt)
We all have anecdotal "evidence" as to why one product is superior to another. If you like your camera then use it happily and proudly. However that is not what this is about. This discussion is about SNR - signal to noise ratio. For that, anecdotes aren't even noise.
Looking at the test data, it seems to me that Fuji is correct.
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