Canon 35 f1 + Canon 85 f1.8

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In reply to brightcolours, 3 months ago

brightcolours wrote:

Don't be lame in your "arguments", please. You started to post measurements from photozone to show how good your 100mm L is. I posted the facts by showing the results from the 100L and 85mm f1,8 USM side by side from exactly the same source.

If you now do not accept that as fact, you are trolling.

As I have told you already, if I go FF I will probably like having a 100mm L as macro lens. So what are you arguing about exactly? A quick reminder... the OP was asking about APS-C.

and charts are at dpreview - sharpest lens ever tested

You actually put any trust in the DXO "tests"? So what happened to your photozone reference (I do trust photozone's results more or less).

dpreview was not associated with dxo at the time dpreview did the testing.  DXO conducted separate tests that shows the 100L is sharper.  And I showed the visual from the digital picture site showing the 100 L is sharper.

Three reputable sites.  Three reputable reviews.  You didn't trust photozone for their assessment of bokeh on your 35 f2

as I said - Game, Set, Match

and here is what Bryan says at the digital picture site for the 85:

“I didn't find myself using the Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM Lens very much after getting the Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM Lens. Although 1 1/3 stop slower, I found the Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM Lens to be far more versatile."

So, nice for brian that he likes a slower zoom over a prime. Brian can have his very own preferences. I like my 70-200mm L too, and use it a lot. I will however not use it for 85mm f1.8/2.0/2.8 portraits.

Because you have F4L on crop.  I know this.  F2.8L on FF and even crop changes everything.  As GB pointed out, in equivalency  - 70-200 F2.8 at F2.8 on FF provides the dof  equivalent of F1.8 dof on crop.  It is called -- flexibility.

That is one reason why I updated my beloved F4L to my F2.8L.  Suggest you consider the same when you get FF.  Then there isn't much reason for 85 f1.8.  BTW -- we established that you didn't have the tamy 60 f2 ( at least you didn't answer the question).  Can you show some shots from your 85 f1.8?

and here is what Bryan says about the 100L

"I called the Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro Lens Canon's "Most fun per dollar lens". While that lens is less expensive, I'm thinking the Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 L IS USM Macro Lens may be the new holder of this title. The improvements in this lens, especially the Hybrid IS, go a long way toward increasing the fun-ness. And the results are definitely fun-inducing. This is a highly recommended lens."

Nice that Brian likes the 100mm L as macro lens. on FF I will most probably like it as macro lens on FF too. Not on APS-C, as I have explained before.

My Flexibility comments are not lame.  The 70-200 F2.8 versions are much more flexible on FF than the F4L version.  When it was me - that is the investment I made first.  Then the 100L came later.  No place for an 85.

If Canon comes out with a new 50 F1.4 IS -- I'll get that one instead of my 50 f1.8II and 50 f1.4

remaining 50 mm apart for prime sets is a smart idea

You said if you got the sigma F1.4 art you'd use it between F4-F8.  Ouch.  Look at the bokeh samples at F4 at the Digital Picture Site -- the bokeh does not look so hot at F4.  But the fact of the matter is -- I wouldn't buy the sigma F1.4 unless I intended to use it F1.4 - F2.2  That is the reason to buy the sigma.  And Schmegg  has shown it has good bokeh at these wide open or near wide open settings.

So what I've said is not lame.  I've had to debunk your unique viewpoint on gear.  What I've said is flexibility for the $ spent.

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