Please tell me I am correct & the pro Is wrong???

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happysnapper64
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Re: Trying to make it simple
In reply to quadrox, 4 months ago

quadrox wrote:

happysnapper64 wrote:

I read a thread a week or so ago, & thought I had at last got the understanding of the difference between an image taken with a crop v FF. It was a "Eureka" moment for me, or so I thought. The difference, I learned, was in the FIELD OF VIEW, & NOT the focal length. That a 70-300 was a FOCAL LENGTH of 70-300 on both, but the FF allowed a WIDER view of the scene but NOT a longer view, eg. it didn't make the subject appear closer. Right, to the point. I have just been reading a UK photography mag which was testing various 70-300's. Reading the review of the Tamron it read, "The lens gives a FOCAL LENGTH of 110-420 on a crop frame camera". Please put me right, it is the FOV that changes, right? NOT the focal length? If I am correct, it is no wonder us newbies have a hard time getting to grips with things, when the pro's & teachers can't explain it propperly.

The error is not as bad as you make it out to be, but your confusion is very understandable.

Imagine you stand in the exact same spot and use the exact same lens to take a picture with a full-frame and a crop sensor. You get both images printed on e.g. a 3 yard x 2 yard canvas.

If you want to prove that the lens is the same for both cameras, you must let the full-frame image fill the entire canvas, and the crop camera only the center part of the canvas, to properly represent the difference in angle of view. The central part of the crop sensor image should look more or less identical to the central part of the full-frame sensor, only the crop-sensor image will have a large blank border.

Now, typically you would not print an image from a crop camera with such a large border, you would want to fill the entire canvas. If you do this however, you are now enlargin the image from the crop sensor camera, and suddenly it appears as if the image from the crop sensor camera was taken with a longer focal length than the image from the full-frame camera.

Of course the lens itself does not change when you put it on two different cameras, but it will look like it. Therefore you say that a given lens has an equivalent focal length on a crop camera compared to a full-frame camera, because the image will look like it had been taken with such a focal length.

Quadrox. I have read your post & need to read it a few more times, [my concentration is not what it was, & it was never THAT good then!! lol] But I think the point is starting to sink in. I just did an experriment with a large rubber band. It is actually an excercise band for strengthening the muscles & tendons on my arthritic knees, & is about 4" wide. I drew 2 rectangles of different sizes to represent the different sized sensors. I then drew a "smilley face" of exactly equal size in the middle of each "sensor". I then stretched the "crop sensor" rectangle to the same size as the "FF rectangle" & the "smilley face" on the crop rectangle does indeed become larger than the FF "smilley face". Please, please, please tell me I have got it at last!!! I only have a half bottle of JB left!

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