A true D700 successor: D600 sensor in D800 body ... and fur gods sake, leave the damn video out!!!

Started Jan 27, 2013 | Discussions thread
ralittle2
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Re: A true D700 successor
In reply to Robin Casady, Jan 28, 2013

Robin Casady wrote:

csn wrote:

It's simple. Nikon is loosing sales because potential customers (like me) want neither the D600 (too entry level feel) nor the D800 (slow fps and cumbersome file size).

Show me the data. This is just speculation on your part. My speculation is that such a camera would mostly eat into Nikon sales of other models. The number of increased total sales may be insufficient to counteract the added cost of making, stocking, distributing, and advertising another body. If it ate into D800/E sales it would lower the quantities of 36 MP chips, raising their unit cost.

Perhaps, but overall revenue is what matters. The increased sales may, and in my estimation, be higher than the D800/E sales. Many companies greatly increase revenue by taking parts from different bins and with very little engineering come out with an entirely different product. This has been going on for a long time. Think Ford Mustang with the underpinnings of the Falcon. Mercedes did this most recently when they came out with the CLS, taking the underpinnings of the E-class and expanding the market. Now others have followed, and for good reason... VW CC, BMW 6-series Gran Coupe, and Audi A7.

The D600 is an entry level FX body. Nikon could discount it a bit (which is already happening) and would sell zillion of them.

The D800/800E are specialist FX bodies with pixel counts in the stratosphere; they will always have their special place with landcape, product and studio artist who need that kind of image detail.

The world is changing. Resolution that was once acceptable is now too low. You just need to catch up. You think 24 MP is acceptable, but 36 MP is stratospheric. We are only talking about a linear resolution increase of about 20%, and file size increase of about 50%.

Agreed, but who knows what Nikon has up their sleeve. Maybe a D4 variant with this chip in it?

The rest who want a semi-pro 'jack-of-all-trade' FX body would be happy with the D750, which would nicely slot in between the D600/800 pair in the mid $2K price range.

Yes, this is a proliferation of bodies but it covers the entire FX market. Reading the posts in various Nikon related forums, one gets a sense that there is a giant hole in Nikon's FX line up, which needs some serious plugging.

The pros who need high fps and smaller file sizes have the D4. So, your complaint is really just that the D4 is to expensive.

With all due respect, it isn't just the pros who want a higher fps camera. Many folks like myself, who have kids playing various sports can't make do with the D800 nor can afford the D4. And if the "lowly resolution" of the D4 isn't what it used to be, but it's what the pros need then your comments about resolution seem to be in conflict.

I can see the market for a D400 & a D750. Now, Nikon isn't about to call me up and ask me what I think, but as I see it they can expand the market or try to live off what they think the consumer needs. Ask the American auto industry how that worked out for them in the 70's.

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