And primes perform better than zooms in my experiance so why bother with a zoom? The 12-35 is a pretty easy range to cover with primes for landscape use in the m43 world.

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You really need an explanation of the advantages of zooms over primes?

I'm just confused as to why you are not happy with the 12-35. You seem to be looking for great image quality in a lens and feel that the kit lens is better... But unwilling to go to 2-3 primes and use your feet for a few steps? You have to decide if you want the best image quality or convenience.

Im perfectly happy with the images out of the 12-35 however I'm also using (almost exclusively) at f4 or wider.

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I was expecting more from an expensive lens - is it too much to ask that the optical performance is at least equal to the kit lens in this area?

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12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Shirozina	5 months ago	6
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	rpm40	5 months ago	5
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	RobbieV	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	ryan2007	5 months ago	2
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Shirozina	5 months ago	3
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	jkrumm	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Skeeterbytes	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	OniMirage	5 months ago
12-35 impressive as a landscape lens	sgoldswo	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 impressive as a landscape lens	OniMirage	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Savas Kyprianides	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	ARB1	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	ryan2007	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	mpgxsvcd	5 months ago	1
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Shirozina	5 months ago
Panasonic defense hour	Francis Carver	5 months ago	3
Re: Panasonic defense hour	amtberg	5 months ago
Re: Panasonic defense hour	sgoldswo	5 months ago	1
Re: Panasonic defense hour	ryan2007	5 months ago	1
Re: Panasonic defense hour	Jeff Tokayer	5 months ago	1
Re: Panasonic defense hour	NuFonaut	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	ohmydentist	5 months ago	4
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	OMaster Dee	5 months ago	4
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	bluelemmy	5 months ago	4
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Shirozina	5 months ago	2
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	mpgxsvcd	5 months ago	2
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	peevee1	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	sean000	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Bob Tullis	5 months ago	2
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Shirozina	5 months ago	1
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Bob Tullis	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	amtberg	5 months ago
DxO vs ACR?	sigala1	5 months ago
Re: DxO vs ACR?	Bob Tullis	5 months ago
Re: DxO vs ACR?	sigala1	5 months ago
Re: DxO vs ACR?	Bob Tullis	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Timbukto	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	CrisPhoto	5 months ago
Thanks good info here	sigala1	5 months ago	2
Re: Thanks good info here	dav1	5 months ago	3
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Shirozina	5 months ago	1
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Timbukto	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	sean000	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	John.Laninga	5 months ago	4
Here is an alternative ...	forpetessake	5 months ago
Re: Here is an alternative ...	Mingjai	5 months ago	1
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	inasir1971	5 months ago	2
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	sgoldswo	5 months ago	2
My 12-35 is impressive as a landscape lens...	ernieF	5 months ago	1
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	sigala1	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	sgoldswo	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Dawindyk	5 months ago
OP: Indeed, some examples would be appreciated, n/t	IsabelS	5 months ago
Re: OP: Indeed, some examples would be appreciated, n/t	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: OP: Indeed, some examples would be appreciated, n/t	Dawindyk	5 months ago
Re: OP: Indeed, some examples would be appreciated, n/t	sigala1	5 months ago
Re: OP: Indeed, some examples would be appreciated, n/t	benarden	5 months ago
Re: OP: Indeed, some examples would be appreciated, n/t	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	sgoldswo	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	sigala1	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	sgoldswo	5 months ago
What gives you the right to call a kit lens user "some shmuck" sigala1?	Hen3ry	5 months ago
dude...	sigala1	5 months ago	1
You were busy hanging nasty stuff on kit lens users	Hen3ry	5 months ago
Come on Geoff......	tedolf	5 months ago	1
There is a reason...	ryanshoots	5 months ago	1
IQ best at f4 on all m43 lenses	peppermonkey	5 months ago
Re: IQ best at f4 on all m43 lenses	sigala1	5 months ago
Why bother?	String	5 months ago	1
Re: Why bother?	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: Why bother?	String	5 months ago
Re: Why bother?	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: Why bother?	String	5 months ago	1
Re: Why bother?	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: Why bother?	mpgxsvcd	5 months ago	2
Re: Why bother?	mpgxsvcd	5 months ago	1
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	mpgxsvcd	5 months ago	1
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	sigala1	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	mpgxsvcd	5 months ago	1
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	mpgxsvcd	5 months ago	1
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	amtberg	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	amtberg	5 months ago	1
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	mpgxsvcd	5 months ago	1
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Anders W	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	amtberg	5 months ago	1
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	forpetessake	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Sabatia	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Shirozina	5 months ago
Would you not recommend the 12-35 for the OM-D? Then what to use for landscapes?	webservants	5 months ago
Message to Shirozina	Big Ga	5 months ago
Re: Message to Shirozina	jim stirling	5 months ago
Re: Message to Shirozina	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: Have you got a bad copy ?	axlotl	5 months ago
Re: Have you got a bad copy ?	Big Ga	5 months ago
Re: Lumix 12-35 at 12mm f2.8 and f4	axlotl	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	peevee1	5 months ago
Let's just face reality.....	tedolf	5 months ago	1
Re: Let's just face reality.....	amtberg	5 months ago
You can't compare a FULL FRAME lens to m43 lens	sigala1	5 months ago	1
Re: You can't compare a FULL FRAME lens to m43 lens	amtberg	5 months ago
Re: Let's just face reality.....	idiotekniQues	5 months ago
Re: Let's just face reality.....	Savas Kyprianides	5 months ago
Re: Let's just face reality.....	Tvaclavek	5 months ago
Re: Let's just face reality.....	OniMirage	5 months ago
Re: Let's just face reality.....	amtberg	5 months ago
Re: Let's just face reality.....	idiotekniQues	5 months ago
The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	papillon_65	5 months ago	1
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	papillon_65	5 months ago
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Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	papillon_65	5 months ago
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Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	papillon_65	5 months ago
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	amtberg	5 months ago
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Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	papillon_65	5 months ago
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	daddyo	5 months ago
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Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	papillon_65	5 months ago
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	amtberg	5 months ago
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	amtberg	5 months ago
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	amtberg	5 months ago
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	Big Ga	5 months ago
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	amtberg	5 months ago
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	amtberg	5 months ago
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	RicksAstro	5 months ago
Re: The biggest critics of the 12-35mm....	papillon_65	5 months ago
Just a thought.	Jeff Tokayer	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	bluelemmy	5 months ago	1
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	papillon_65	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: 12-35 unimpressive as a landscape lens	amtberg	5 months ago
I used prime lenses only, if I can	Micromegas777	5 months ago
Re: I used prime lenses only, if I can	Shirozina	5 months ago
Re: I used prime lenses only, if I can	Big Ga	5 months ago
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