World's happiest and most prosperous countries.

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Midnighter Senior Member • Posts: 1,727
Re: Some interesting things to point out

Brian wrote:

Midnighter wrote:

Brian wrote:

1) The U.S. Ranked #2 for health. hmmmm how can this be without socialized medicine

I guess because a significant part of their data relies on self reported well-being so it runs into the problem of warped perspective (like believing you are in the middle class even when you are really in the poor working/class) and limited perspective with no comparative experience (like being happy with a loaf of bread and thinking you are well fed while your neighbor dines on pheasant).

What would you define as the poor working class?

That varies nation to nation according to distribution of wealth and assigned poverty levels, but what I was alluding to is that many people seem to want to believe they are better off than they really are compared to their fellow citizens and that distribution of wealth is more even than it actually is. I don't know if this effect is replicated in many countries but its certainly true of both Australia and the US.

Also I think because health expenditure per person in the US is HUUUUUUUUUUUGE. That would be, in socialized care, a good thing.... because the money would create a more effective health outcome per dollar. However if hospital treatment for anaphylactic shock costs 5-10 times more in the US than in a nation with more socialized care what do you make of it? 5-10X more money spent on care... must mean health is better

But it doesn't cost 5-10X more. Maybe 2x more, but certainly not 5-10x more. For some reason people think health insurance would cost less in the U.S. if it were a single payer system. I don't buy into it at all.

I would not be so sure. It cost me 9X the money to be treated for the same condition in a US hospital as it did for a foreign tourist to be treated here in Australia for the same thing, plus the hospital threw in a 'sorry' because the patient had to pay the full cost of their care (which was from the non-profit cost schedule).

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