Dumb people & Guns, what a bad mix?

Started Jan 20, 2013 | Discussions thread
aus4ever
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In reply to Chato, Jan 21, 2013

Chato wrote:

aus4ever wrote:

Chato wrote:


You keep bring up a failed argument. You can stop using any kind of transport, can't you? A lot of people died of choking every year (more than a thousand across America). You can stop eating to avoid that, can't you?

This is the bottom of the barrel in logic

The kind of gun death you are having does not happen to other developed countries. That's extra and unnecessary death.

By no means does the US have a monopoly in gun accidents. Apparently you are unaware that some other countries have almost as many guns as we do.

Dave

Please tell me, which developed country during times of peace has the same level of firearms related homicides and accidents as the US?

You attempting to change the subject? For your information my chances of being accidently killed by a motor vehicle are a hundred (two Hundred?) times the chance of me being accidently killed by a fireare.

The Russian Federation has over twice the homicide rate of the United States, and yet most firearms are banned. In fact, most of their homicides aren't even done with guns.

Oh, sorry, if you don't get murdered with a gun it doesn't count.

In Ukraine or Belarus the homicide rate is higher than the US. Same for Latvia and Estonia.

Luxembourg and Finland, have homicide rates about half of ours.

But the homicide rate for the US is half of what it was ten years ago, whereas the homicide rate in ​your country​ remains virtually the same.

Dave

You are the one to changing the subject to talk about homicide in general. You are lowering the US status to compare with some non-OECD, former Soviet Union countries. How humble of you!

I know, it's so unfair of me to actually reply to ​what you wrote.

You wrote, and I quote:

"You keep bring up a failed argument. You can stop using any kind of transport, can't you? A lot of people died of choking every year (more than a thousand across America). You can stop eating to avoid that, can't you?"

We had a total of only 260 victims of all kinds of homicides in 2010, 1.2 per 100,000. It is going to take you another 20 years to match that, if you are lucky.

Your homicide rate, it one quarter of ours. And it was one quarter of ours ten years ago. That means that if your population was the same as our, your numbers would be quite a bit higher

Our homicide rate is 1.2 victims per 100,000, homicide using firearms is only 13%.
Say your population is 315,195,187.  If our population is same as yours, our total homicide rate in a year is 315,195,187/100,000*1.2 = 3783 and homicides related to firearms 3783*0.13=492.

In comparison, you had a total of 12,644 homicide victims in 2011 and 8583 killed by firearms.
Total homicide victims are still 3.34 times than ours and homicide victims killed by firearms are 17.5 times more.

rjjr, check my calculation. 

Now the Swiss, who have almost an many guns as we do, ​and more assualt rifles then we do​, have a homicide rate half of yours.

Dave

Switzerland's civilian gun ownership is 45.7 per 100 people while yours is 88.8.  Gunpolicy.org
They do have a slightly lower homicide rate per 100,000 than Australia but not by much, 0.7 vs 1.2 per 100,000.
Yes, isn't it time that you and other Americans really think about why Switzerland has a much lower firearms related homicides and accidents despite their very high gun ownership?

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