Led ring lights for 60mm f2.8

Okay, I confess I have notice that on shiny surfaces. But a lot of my macro work is done on surfaces that have a matt finish, and so there are no reflections. Even on shiny surfaces, the effect of all the reflections is often attractive, and the lighting between the hot spots is not harsh and the hot spots are so small that they are more interesting than harsh. Sometimes, it's kind of ludicrous, like when you take a picture of person's eye, when you see two white spots from the two tubes.

I'll take my reflector along with me and try it out again. In any case, ring flashes are not "like std flash units," as you start out saying. They give an entirely different impression, a much more pleasant impression in most cases, even in many highly reflective subjects. So I think you overstate your case.

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Frank Paris