A99 Soft Video Note~

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Re: A99 Soft Video Note~ pretty sure it's line skipping
In reply to photo chris, 4 months ago

photo chris wrote:

bezerk55 wrote:

i've mentioned this before, and i don't know if this has been mentioned by anyone else here recently, but i am quite certain the problem is caused by the line skipping technique used to downsample the 24mp image off the sensor to the 2mp video frame. that is pretty much the end of the story, and it has nothing to do with settings or lenses or faulty cameras or avchd compression, and can't be fixed by firmware updates. the a99 exhibits similar video quality problems (softness, moire, aliasing) that the 5d mk2 has, which famously line skips (moire problem exacerbated due to line skipping combined with the olpf). the 5d mk3, while still relatively soft, doesn't have moire and aliasing problems because it no longer line skips and instead has a 3x3 pixel binning technique (allegedly). the gh2 doesn't line skip (exact technique unknown, but supposed to be some combination of intelligent pixel sampling to a 4 mp image followed by downscale to 2mp) and exhibits far less problems with moire and aliasing, and has arguably the most detailed video of any of the dslr style cameras.

I agree with this assessment, I've said from the beginning I think its caused by hatcheting the 24mp image down to ~2.1mp, line skipping is not the way to go, All-I from what I've seen produces better results. The A99 does exhibit very similar traits to the 5d2 in the area of moire and aliasing, but the 5d2 is sharper. I cut footage from my Nex5n with the 5d2 - using Zeiss ZE lenses via a fotodiox dumb adapter on the 5n - and side-by-side the 5d2 footage was sharper after adjustments were made in post. I'm holding on to my Nex because its a crazy cheap backup that shoots nice 60p. Discussions that level any criticism at the A99 really seem to rub some people the wrong way, I'm checking out of these threads until I have other test cameras to compare with the A99. Enjoy your cameras.

Nikon D600 uses same sensor (without phase detectors). The big difference with video is that it doesn't use whole FF sensor size. Besides cropping from 3:2 ratio to 16:9 there is additional crop (92%) that might help with line skipping math.

I also get a feeling that A99 issues might come from battery optimization  With EVF they have to use really low power CPU and maybe down clock it. That is why there is aperture/shutter changing lag, no build in flash. Maybe  this cpu is too weak for keeping details from 24mpix with line skipping.

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