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Re: New Garage Studio Setup
In reply to Sailor Blue,
4 months ago
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Sailor Blue wrote:
paradox7 wrote:
Thank you all for your really helpful advice, I've been reading carefully trying to get my head around all of this.
<snip>LIGHTING
- I'm pretty confused here, but it seems speed-lites are not a good studio setup, so I'm looking at getting 2 x dedicated studio lights. First impressions are they seem quite expensive, and I'm assuming i'm after mono-lights (with 5 stop range). I'm not sure what wattage to get however, 250w seems affordable, up to 400W at max of possible budget, and what colour range should I be getting?
Ideally these would be ceiling mounted (on a track?), but I guess I need to be able to reposition easily, so maybe this is where the auto-poles (x2) would help.
- The speedring/hairlight also confused me, as I'm not sure how that fits into the setup?
TRIGGERS
- If I have dedicated lights, would I not use my hot-shoe flash also? Or do I re-purpose that as a 3rd lighting option when in studio? (if so what role does it play)....
- So if that's the case I guess I'll need to trigger another way, which is what I assume the remote trigger will do on a hot shoe mount.. so I take it this is all fully manual control of lighting with no ETTL?
Apologies for the basic nature of these questions, I will keep this thread running as I build the studio kit up and post some pics as I go, I do appreciate the time you've all taken to help me out on this... so genuinely thanks and Happy Holidays!
Many people use hot-shoe flash units for studio photography. They work but since they lack modeling lights they are harder to use if you are critical about how you light your subjects. Studio strobes with built-in modeling lights are simply easier to use.
Color range isn't a consideration with studio strobes since they all fire at about 5300K-5600K. Of course with the AllienBees you can chose the color of the case.
In a studio you do NOT want to use TTL. When you operate at a fixed subject to lights distance TTL will cause exposure changes if you zoom with your lens or feet and you want the exposures to be exactly the same for every shot. You want to use manual power control of all your lights so that every exposure is the same.
300Ws to 600Ws is a good power range for studio strobes but you can get by with 250Ws for most purposes. If you get a softbox or umbrella with a diffuser surface area much larger than about 1500 square inches then you will need more than 250Ws. I can work at ISO = 100, f/8 with a softbox up to about 2000 square inch with my 300Ws strobes.
Paul C. Buff AllineBee B800 = $279.95, Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT = $629. You can buy two B800's for less than one 600EX-RT, then use the money saved to buy a 64" PLM with the extra money saved. Add $15.95 for a sock and you have yourself a dual purpose light modifier. Buy a second PLM & cover for your fill light. Add a couple of stands and you are set.
Track systems are not cheap. 15" wide is enough space for you to be able to use stands.
Mounting a studio strobe with a gridded strip softbox in the ceiling for a hair light is nice but it does have its drawbacks. You need remote power control and the subject's position is fixed if you want to use the hair light. It is more useful to have the hair light on a stand, especially if you have a boom stand for it.
Are PLMs and stands too much money? Buy a cheap umbrella mount kit for hot-shoe flash units. You can always remove the hot-shoes and use the B800's. Add a 60" umbrella for standing subjects while one of the 43" ones is used for the fill light.
Impact Digital Flash Umbrella Mount Kit DFUMK B&H Photo Video
Impact Convertible 60" Umbrella UBBW60 B&H Photo Video
You want to get your hot-shoe flash off your camera. Set the power manually and zoom it to the max focal length and use it as an accent or hair light. With the 600EX-RT I would add a simple optical hot-shoe to the flash for use in the studio.
hot-shoe flash optical slaves | eBay
For triggering your studio strobes you can use a sync cable to one light and let the optical slaves trigger the other lights. The problem with cables is that it is easy to trip over them or to accidentaly pull them out of the camera, which usually damages the camera.
Much better than a sync cable is a RF trigger. You can use simple budget priced ones like the Yongnuo RF-603s if you also buy a LS-02/3.5 cable for them. Add a 3.5mm to 6.5mm Mono-Audio adapter to fit into the B800 and you are set for abut $35.
If you want to gain remote control of your strobe power levels right from the camera AND get a flash meter as well then buy the Paul C. Buff CyberSync system. You want the CyberCommander, which has a built in flash meter, and one receiver for each B800. You would still have to set the power of the 600EX-RT manually.
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I concur with Sailor Blue's assessment of using PCB's studio strobes over Speed lights. The cost effectiveness of his lighting gear for studio work is a great value. I personally use Einsteins along with the CyberCommander modules in my commercial work. Having the ability to control each light from one controller is absolutely necessary in a commercial environment. Having several lights on booms high in the air makes having a remote control worth every penny.
In terms of having a studio space I have personally wrestled with that element. In reality studio space rents range from a low of 800.00 a month to a high of 3000.00 a month here in the Bay Area. It's very difficult to justify a recurring expense each month unless I can make a profit from studio work. Since most of my clients want publicity imagery on location, it doesn't make sense for me to have a dedicated studio. When the need arises there are studios that rent by the day or half day which makes better sense for me economically. I also find that studio work is a bit limiting from a creative standpoint, unless you're doing strictly portrait work. Even then you may find that after developing a good body of work, you'll want to venture out to locations that add more interest to your images. Or perhaps not.
My rule of thumb when finding a studio is this, the smaller the space, the more I'll be cussing. When you have a limited amount of space it affects your options for lighting a scene. Oh sure it can be done, it just involves more cussing for me.
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